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[Diversity 1161] Re: I do not understand how this applies to Diversityand Literacy

Karen Wyman

Karenw at nmcadv.org
Mon Oct 26 12:03:08 EDT 2009


Hi, Gina -

I was responding to Bertie's post and her statement, "However, I've
noticed that female teachers are being tried for having sexual
relationships with underaged males, while I'm also beginning to see
reports of males complaining about unwanted attention from female
superiors.." It seems important to address this on a list that is
focused on diversity.



It seems to me that this list often gets sidetracked into discussions of
attire, rather than deal substantively with the issues it was originally
intended to deal with - women, race, and poverty and the literacy
related issues connected with those.



Karen Wyman



From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On
Behalf Of Lobaccaro Gina (DOC)
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:54 AM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1160] I do not understand how this applies to
Diversityand Literacy



I do not understand what this discussion has to do with the diversity
and literacy list.

I guess I subscribe to many lists and many of them I DO pay attention to
them and they are meaningful to me for my work and my education. This
conversation is certainly important and meaningful. But I do not
understand how it applies to this list.


Gina Lobaccaro



"We're here to help each other get through this thing - whatever it
might be." (Kurt Vonnegut)



Gina W. Lobaccaro

Media & Technology Specialist

Sussex Correctional Institution

PO Box 500

Georgetown, DE 19947

302-856-5282 x 6204

gina.lobaccaro at state.de.us







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From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On
Behalf Of Karen Wyman
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 AM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1159] Women Tried for Relations with Underage Males



Hi, all -

It is important to remember that one reason we hear so much in the media
about women who have been charged with crimes against boys and men is
precisely because it happens so infrequently. These cases often become
wildly sensationalized, especially when compared with similar crimes of
men against women and girls which get very little media attention unless
they involve celebrities. It is not accurate to infer that because of
the media coverage, there are higher rates of these types of crimes
(women against boys and men). That would be profoundly inaccurate.

Respectfully,

Karen



From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On
Behalf Of Bertha Mo
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:34 AM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1129] Re: Get dirty in street clothes,maybe have a
beer with parents and at least act like a humanbeing...



Katherine:



I agree that statistically speaking, more females than males get
sexually harassed. But I thought we were talking about "attire."
Sexual harassment is about power, not about sexuality.



Best,



Bertie



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From: Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt <katherine.gotthardt at gmail.com>
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List <diversity at nifl.gov>
Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:03:43 AM
Subject: [Diversity 1127] Re: Get dirty in street clothes, maybe have a
beer with parents and at least act like a human being...

When I think in terms of sexual harassment, I think mostly of women
being harassed. Sorry to say, this is a statistical reality, no matter
what the woman is wearing.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Michael Gyori <tesolmichael at yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hello Bertie and all,



So women can dress in a masculine fashion in a corporate setting, but
men cannot dress in a femine manner. You are right, Bertie. That said,
is the corporate domain the one we should single out? In it, there is,
in my opinion, an almost surreal effort underway to emasculate women.



That's a world I don't wish to participate in, much less identify with.



Michael






Michael A. Gyori

Maui International Language School

www.mauilanguage.com <http://www.mauilanguage.com/>





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From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com>
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List <diversity at nifl.gov>
Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 4:07:56 PM
Subject: [Diversity 1125] Re: Fw: Get dirty in street clothes, maybe
have a beer with parents and at least act like a human being...

I don't think it's different for men and women to maintain boundaries or
to dress comfortably and appropriately. In fact, since it became
appropriate for women to wear tailored pants for work, I find that
women, not men have a wider choice of professional wear. I'm curious
why others feel that it might be different for women.



Best,



Bertie






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