:)

I teach in a prison, and I have for nearly 20 years. I wear trousers (certainly not tight fitting) and oversized shirts and often a light weight jacket. I am very conscious of my dress-code as it is a men's prison.
But I just do not see it as a "Literacy" issue.
I subscribe to many NIFL lists. I am working on completing my Ed Doctorate in Educational Technology (and I am 58), and I guess some topics are more important to me personally and professionally. But that is certainly true for all of us.
Sometimes my work email box gets so filled up with list emails that I get overwhelmed.
I do appreciate the very positive responses I got to my post.  Thanks.
Gina

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From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:03 PM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1162] Re: I do not understand how this applies to Diversity and Literacy

Gina, I think we are talking about how different classroom settings require different norms in dress and how, if we don't identify those norms correctly, we are setting ourselves up for uncomfortable (i.e. boundary-breaking) situations.

How do you dress in your setting and why?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Lobaccaro Gina (DOC) <Gina.Lobaccaro at state.de.us<mailto:Gina.Lobaccaro at state.de.us>> wrote:
I do not understand what this discussion has to do with the diversity and literacy list.
I guess I subscribe to many lists and many of them I DO pay attention to them and they are meaningful to me for my work and my education. This conversation is certainly important and meaningful. But I do not understand how it applies to this list.

Gina Lobaccaro


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From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov> [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov>] On Behalf Of Karen Wyman
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 AM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1159] Women Tried for Relations with Underage Males

Hi, all -
It is important to remember that one reason we hear so much in the media about women who have been charged with crimes against boys and men is precisely because it happens so infrequently.  These cases often become wildly sensationalized, especially when compared with similar crimes of men against women and girls which get very little media attention unless they involve celebrities. It is not accurate to infer that because of the media coverage, there are higher rates of these types of crimes (women against boys and men). That would be profoundly inaccurate.
Respectfully,
Karen

From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov> [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov>] On Behalf Of Bertha Mo
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:34 AM
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Diversity 1129] Re: Get dirty in street clothes,maybe have a beer with parents and at least act like a humanbeing...

Katherine:

I agree that statistically speaking, more females than males get sexually harassed.  However, I've noticed that female teachers are being tried for having sexual relationships with underaged males, while I'm also beginning to see reports of males complaining about unwanted attention from female superiors..  But I thought we were talking about "attire."  Sexual harassment is about power, not about sexuality.

Best,

Bertie

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From: Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt <katherine.gotthardt at gmail.com<mailto:katherine.gotthardt at gmail.com>>
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List <diversity at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity at nifl.gov>>
Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:03:43 AM
Subject: [Diversity 1127] Re: Get dirty in street clothes, maybe have a beer with parents and at least act like a human being...

When I think in terms of sexual harassment, I think mostly of women being harassed.  Sorry to say, this is a statistical reality, no matter what the woman is wearing.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Michael Gyori <tesolmichael at yahoo.com<mailto:tesolmichael at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hello Bertie and all,

So women can dress in a masculine fashion in a corporate setting, but men cannot dress in a femine manner.  You are right, Bertie. That said, is the corporate domain the one we should single out?  In it, there is, in my opinion, an almost surreal effort underway to emasculate women.

That's a world I don't wish to participate in, much less identify with.

Michael




Michael A. Gyori

Maui International Language School

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From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com<mailto:bertiemo at yahoo.com>>
To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List <diversity at nifl.gov<mailto:diversity at nifl.gov>>
Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 4:07:56 PM
Subject: [Diversity 1125] Re: Fw: Get dirty in street clothes, maybe have a beer with parents and at least act like a human being...
I don't think it's different for men and women to maintain boundaries or to dress comfortably and appropriately.  In fact, since it became appropriate for women to wear tailored pants for work, I find that women, not men have a wider choice of professional wear.  I'm curious why others feel that it might be different for women.

Best,

Bertie



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