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[Diversity 1179] Re: dress codes, boundaries, ethics, social class and culture
Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt
katherine.gotthardt at gmail.comSat Nov 7 09:48:47 EST 2009
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Patricia, what is LOCKS?
And Abby is my favorite. Homogenized culture isn't.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jones-Turner, Patricia <
JonesTurnerP at chesterfield.gov> wrote:
> As a director of a program and a licensed and ordained minister in
> VIRGINIA who has LOCKS (not dread locks), I find that one's ability far
> out ways their hair style. Body piercings, tattoos, excessive gold and
> silver may be assessed differently due to gang implications in this area
> so it becomes a safety issue and not a cultural stereotype. For any NCIS
> fans out there who have seen the character "Abby" who is totally
> competent but her "look" is not one that has been embraced by our
> society at large. But whose to say how many Abby's are out there who
> get overlooked because of our unwillingness to step outside of the box
> labeled "my perspective". I am a contradiction in terms, in more ways
> than one, but I am proud of that because it demonstrates the power of
> "My God", who uses the foolish to confound the wise.
> There is nothing more attractive than African American hairstyles.
> Society as a whole simply needs to get over it. So please don't under
> play the content of one's character by asking us/me to assimilate. I am
> not interested in being a part of an homogenized culture. I love
> diversity. Maybe those companies who are stuck in the 60's are not
> places people of color or others who are diverse should seek employment.
> Today, it may be your hair and tomorrow they be ask that you change your
> religion or cross ethical boundaries with the boss. Where does it stop?
> Assimilation is not the wave of the future. Sorry.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On
> Behalf Of David Rosen
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List
> Subject: [Diversity 1148] Re: dress codes, boundaries, ethics,social
> class and culture
>
>
> Arthur,
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think you are referring to how
> teachers and students dress for class and work. If so, if the students
> are all preparing for a certain kind of work, that should guide how
> teacher and students dress in work-related basic skills and job skills
> training classes. For example, it is perfectly appropriate, I think,
> for instructors in a community college welding program to dress in
> work clothes that welders wear, clothes that are quite different from
> what medical technicians wear or what people preparing for corporate
> office jobs will need to wear. This isn't a "dress code" as much as it
> is "dress for success at work" issue.
>
> I have a friend who is a Hip Hop artist. He has dreadlocks. A few
> months ago he was having a tough time surviving as an artist. As he
> also has work experience is restaurants, I suggested he might have to
> cut the dreads if he was applying for restaurant jobs, especially in
> this tough job climate. It was painful for me to make this suggestion
> because I realize how important his art is to him, and that he hopes
> one day to earn his living through his art. On the other hand, he's a
> parent, his family needs him to earn a regular income, and he cares
> about being a good father. I mention this story to further develop the
> simplistic scenario of the first paragraph with some of the
> complexities of that are sometimes involved in decisions about
> appropriate dress. On the surface, it may be simple, just "dress for
> success." Underneath, these decisions may be extremely difficult,
> involved with personal identity, cultural or religious affiliation,
> class identity, responsibilities as a parent or other family member,
> or other important life choices.
>
> What does this have to do with literacy? Increasingly adult literacy
> education programs are being asked to emphasize preparation for work.
> Dress standards, in the context of this goal, is one of several
> important decisions that some adult literacy education (including
> ESOL) programs need to consider.
>
> David J. Rosen
> DJRosen at theworld.com
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Upham, Arthur G - DCF wrote:
>
> > Custom is to warn about LONG posts so due warning:
> >
> > I have been reading with great interest this ongoing discussions
> > about dress codes, boundaries, ethical codes of conduct (some of
> > which are codified in current law in many locations); and social
> > class and culture.
> >
> > I would like to follow up on two aspects of these.
> >
> > 1. Boundaries and codes of ethical behavior--which impact dress and
> > sexual mores.
> >
> > I find that when I have boundary issues it is unfortunately not lack
> > of knowledge about what boundaries are or should be in the
> > situation, but lack of acknowledging the unmet emotional needs
> > driving myself and possibly the other person involved into
> > minimizing boundary issues or ignoring them. So while I find
> > discussions of boundaries in the abstract edifying, I do not always
> > find discussion and general agreement in theory are enough to deal
> > with the actual.
> >
> > 2. dress code and class and literacy reading writing instruction,
> > teacher/tutors and students:
> >
> > Now this is a much longer set of thoughts on which I am not an
> > expert, but the discussion has been churning around in my head and I
> > would like to use this as a chance to see what others think as well.
> >
> > Who are the people we are trying to help improve their reading and
> > writing skills? Why do they want to do this, what is their general
> > goal? If this is just personal improvement, fine. Teacher dress need
> > not be much of an issue at all. Whatever you and the student are
> > comfortable with, no issue.
> >
> > However, the refugee section I work in within Wisconsin state
> > government is currently placed administratively within the larger
> > group that oversees Wisconsin's welfare program (W-2), a program
> > whose primary goal is to enable participants to move out of public
> > assistance by securing employment--hence many of them need to
> > increase their reading and writing skills in order to do this.
> >
> > But here is my concern. In this state, the W-2 population is very
> > largely located in our one "large" city, Milwaukee, about three
> > million residents. Statistically, the greatest majority of these
> > welfare recipients is: single, mothers, one to three children,
> > youngish (18-25), some high school completion, inner city/poor
> > neighborhoods, largely African-Americans, who live in shared
> > communities with shared cultural norms, expectation and outlook.
> >
> > I heard a presentation this week from the chief economic forecaster
> > in the Wisconsin Dept. of Workforce Development, projecting the
> > picture of the workforce needs and shape in the next 20+ years, its
> > trends. Manual/assembly jobs will continue to be off-shored as
> > costing less--fewer and fewer jobs available for those who
> > traditionally had lower reading/writing skills and could turn to
> > manual intensive jobs for a living. No need to stress the impact,
> > for example, of the collapse of the auto industry in the US. These
> > jobs are not likely to return.
> >
> > At the same time, the trend in jobs available will continue to be
> > for at least some technical skills at the level of a 2-4 year post
> > secondary education--even now employers who hire someone without a
> > secondary education are few and far between: most won't hire
> > without this minimum. So jobs will require a higher educational
> > achievement.
> >
> > So back to the questions of dress, class and reading/writing in this
> > scenario: the purpose of teaching reading and writing to this set of
> > students is not just to give a sense of personal achievement and
> > increase power, but to help them achieve a stable financial income
> > through improved employment opportunities, but improved income will
> > also likely mean adjusting social status--move to a better
> > neighborhood, get a better home (a home at all). Having any chance
> > to get this kind of job with require both improved reading and
> > writing skills, but also willingness to accept and adapt the social/
> > work culture, dress code, business culture that goes along with that
> > job which may not be the codes of the neighborhood or sub-group of
> > origin. In this case, teachers/tutors are also agents of change and
> > models and gatekeepers or ushers.
> >
> > So back to dress code: If I dress a lot like my hypothetical
> > students, I put no barriers stressing how different I am, but I also
> > don't help usher in the set of codes/norms that they will need to
> > adjust to in the workplace.
> >
> > The Workforce Development forecaster also noted that in his view of
> > educational and workforce data, the patterns that strike him are:
> >
> > 1. first three years of a child's education are critical indicators
> > of future education outcomes;
> > 2. the mother's educational attainment is often a good indicator of
> > the child's--the higher the mother's achievement, the more likely
> > the child will also have a similar attainment.
> > 3. as mentioned, this attainment will be a major factor in
> > employment and income: poverty or above.
> > 4. There will be few jobs for any who rely on minimal manufacture
> > related skills (manual intensive work) so poverty is likely for
> > these whose reading and writing and computational skills are low and
> > who do not accept or choose to conform to the culture of work for
> > the level of employment.
> >
> > The refugees we work generally come to the US with a very strong
> > drive to do what it will take to learn what they have to in order to
> > support themselves and their families; the long term welfare
> > recipients are too often generally depressed, discouraged,
> > emotionally stressed out, have had generally a poor experience in
> > school, have few role models for success, have struggled with
> > relationships, are burdened with few job possibilities--one of the
> > greatest challenges their literacy/reading/writing teachers/tutors
> > is to inspire them with hope that things can be better, that they
> > can achieve and find real rewards for doing this. The dress one
> > chooses may also play a part.
> >
> > Arthur Upham, PH. D.
> > Refugee Specialist
> > DCF/DFES/BWF
> > Refugee Assistance Services Programs Section
> > 201 E. Washington Ave.
> > Madison, Wisconsin 53708
> > 608-266-6807
> > arthur.upham at wisconsin.gov
> >
> >
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