Thanks Bonita,

I'm a retired FAA gov worker so I don't know about profit or marketing.  I 
put truespel out there for free at truespel.com for all users.  It's the 
only "pronunciation guide spelling/writing" system I know of that's English 
friendly with no special symbols also showing stress in words.  I hope you 
can use it and others can as well for variouis applicatioins.  Let me know 
if I can assist.  Thanks again.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.






>From: Bonnita Solberg <bdsunmt at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion 

>List<englishlanguage at nifl.gov>

>To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion 

>List<englishlanguage at nifl.gov>

>Subject: [EnglishLanguage 944] Re: Help with pronunciation issues

>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:20:00 -0800 (PST)

>

>Tom:  I definitely believe that Truespel would be useful in learning 

>language after one's first language if the person is educated at least to 

>high school and/or is able to intellectually confront the material.  I see 

>its usefulness for learning Arabic and do believe that I could use the 

>system for that purpose.  Bonnita

>

>Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Bonita,

>

>The pronunciations of truespel are based on the voicings, as I heard them,

>from the American Heritage Talking Dicitonary and in some cases m-w.com, a

>wonderful internet resource.  They are both very siimilar.  Accents will

>vary, but if one were to speak as truespel spells, it would be exceptable

>meda quality USA English.

>

>As I am writing, I see a news report saying that the lack of being able to

>speak Arabic hurts our efforts in Iraq.  I believe that truespel, as the

>only English friendly phonetic spelling system, would be a good way to

>display or teach other languages to Americans (See truespel book one,

>authorhouse.com) .  It can be learned quickly by English natives using

>extended truespel.  Present standard phonetic system, such as SAMPA, are 

>not

>English friendly and not intuitive to use.  The military could use 

>truespel.

>

>I understand that in China, some teachers are using the IPA to spell 

>English

>phonetically for English learners.  That is so hard.

>

>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+

>See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: Bonnita Solberg

> >Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> >List

> >To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> >List

> >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 932] Re: Help with pronunciation issues

> >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:58:26 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >Hi Again Tom;  I think the critical difference between use of this 

>program

> >with kids and using it with adults is that our ESl students come with a

> >very limited vocabulary that is often mispronounced and cannot be spelled

> >correctly because of it.  Some do not have an alphabetically based first

> >language, some do not pair sounds with letters; they often do not read or

> >write even in their first language. To teach students truespel phonetics

> >then convert to English spelling is one step too many in my estimation.

> >Was this system developed in England or a British English speaking 

>country?

> >  The pronunciations presented do vary from American English in more than

> >one case.  In any event, good luck teaching English speaking kids with 

>your

> >system; I think it is not appropriate for an adult population that wants 

>to

> >talk to survive and has little time to spend in a classroom learning 

>basic

> >English conversation.  It could be a research project to determine how 

>much

> >time adult ESOL

> >  students need to learn truespel letter-sound pairing, then essentially

> >unlearn truespel pairing to learn the true English spelling.  I would 

>love

> >to hear from others in the adult ESOL field. Bonnita

> >

> >Tom Zurinskas  wrote: Thanks for your comments,

> >Bonita.

> >

> >Truespel, as a phonetic spelling that uses no special symbols and spells

> >out

> >all schwas.  It's not fair to all accents to pick one dominant form, such

> >as

> >~is for ending "ous".  I had to do a lot of listening to pick the 

>spelling

> >of some of those schwas.  Accents will vary.  In fact truespel can be 

>used

> >to write accents for better understanding for kids.  That's basically 

>what

> >it is - a simple English friendly phonetic writing system.

> >

> >Regarding using truespel as an initial teaching system for kids, this 

>idea

> >seamed compromised to me also by the realization that kids would have to

> >unlearn it to learn tradspel (traditional spelling).  However, IBM's

> >Writing

> >to Read method, as test by ETS with over 6,000 k-1 kids, found that

> >learning

> >to write and read phonetically not only improved learning, but the effect

> >lasted through transition to tradspel.  Truespel need not be unlearned.

> >There are now dictionaries using truespel (truespel dictionaries books 2

> >and

> >3) so one need never forget it, especially when future translation guides

> >use it.

> >

> >Note that phonemic awareness is enhanced teaching truespel, and that is 

>the

> >key ingrediant they found for successful readers.  In light of this,

> >England

> >is switching its early reading system (based on studies with 300 kids) to

> >"synthetic phonics" which is a phonemic awareness method.  Thus, the

> >concept

> >of teaching phonetics first is proven.  I believer truespel would be good

> >for this application.  No other phonetic spelling systems are really user

> >friendly enough to do this.

> >

> >So thanks for your input.  Truespel is a tool awaiting many uses.  It's

> >dictionary is over 60,000 words and faily complete.  It's free to use

> >through the converter at truespel.com.  Of interest is that once a text

> >passage is converted, if you convert it back you'll see all the homonyms

> >(words pronounced the same).

> >

> >I'll gladly support any application.  Some interesting ones is that an

> >animator is using it for mouth movements and a chip maker says that his

> >voice chip works best with truespel based voice modeling.

> >

> >Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+

> >See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: Bonnita Solberg

> > >Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> > >List

> > >To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> > >List

> > >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 927] Re: Help with pronunciation issues

> > >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:38:17 -0800 (PST)

> > >

> > >Tom and Colleagues:

> > >

> > >I am very interested in a system of pronunciation that makes spelling

> >easy

> > >for adults learning English as a second language with the wide range of

> > >education backgrounds, or lack of it, in the immigrant population we

> >serve

> > >in public schools.  I have investigated a lot of systems with the hope 

>of

> > >finding one that students can easily use and have not found one that is

> > >effective for both pronouncing a word and spelling it, so I am in the

> >long

> > >process of developing a system that includes both.  Naturally I was

> > >intrigued by "truespel".  I think it would work for a student with a

> >solid

> > >education background, who could decode well and intellectually confront

> >the

> > >system.  It is also a good guide for pronunciation for teachers who 

>have

> > >little or no background in phonics/linguistics, and in that venue is

> > >extremely valuable.  I would recommend it to the teahers I train to 

>teach

> > >in the ESL classroom.  It is not a system I would teach to students

> >because

> > >it does not pair spelling with

> > >  pronunciation.  Based on past experience with similar strategies, the

> > >conversion process would be confusing and take an enormous amount of

> > >classtime to teach the students we serve.

> > >

> > >I did find some problems with the system in my short investigation.  

>For

> > >instance, and this may be my west coast accent, in number 30 ("sh" 

>sound)

> > >of the phonemes, the word "precious" is given the truespel conversion 

>of

> > >"preshis".  Rather than the "is" sound at the end, I would pronounce it

> > >with an "us" sound as in "nut" or "us".  In the tutorial about the fox,

> >the

> > >word "jumped", the final "d" is given the sound of "d", whereas I would

> > >pronounce it with a "t" sound.  My computer rendition of the 

>introductory

> > >paragraph displayed some grammar and punctuation problems that may be 

>due

> > >to the format on my computer.  Is this system under still construction?

> >It

> > >is an admirable undertaking and one I would like to see at its

> >completion.

> > >Thanks for making this available to us.

> > >

> > >  Bonnita Solberg, Teacher on Special Assignment

> > >Oakland Unified School District

> > >

> > >Tom Zurinskas  wrote: A simple phonetic guide for USA

> > >English is at truespel.com.  Click the

> > >converter button and go to the converter page.  The first converter is

> >the

> > >URL converter.  The entire internet can be converted to truespel, the

> > >world's first pronunciation guide spelling/writing system.

> > >

> > >Further down the page is the text converter.  Paste passages into it 

>and

> > >click convert to see it respelled phonetically in USA English accent.

> > >

> > >The model for the pronunciation is the spoken words of the American

> > >Heritage

> > >Talking dictionary and m-w.com.  This is standard USA accent.

> > >

> > >Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+

> > >See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: Paul Rogers

> > >

> > > >Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> > > >List

> > > >To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

> > > >List

> > > >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 921]  Help with pronunciation issues

> > > >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:52:37 -0800 (PST)

> > > >

> > > >Concerning teaching pronunciation, I have written a series of texts

> >that

> > > >include pronunciation lessons for beginning Spanish speakers, with

> > > >vocabulary spelled two ways: normally and "phonetically". These 

>lesson

> > >have

> > > >proven to be very effective and, I believe, assist the student in an

> > > >overall way in learning English.

> > > >   For more information, go to my web site: PUMAROSA.COM.

> > > >   Paul Rogers

> > > >

> > > >Kathryn Quinn  wrote:

> > > >           Martin:

> > > >   I know exactly how you feel.  I was facilitating an English 

>program

> > >with

> > > >a number of SE Asian students.  One very diligent student from Viet 

>Nam

> > > >came for advisement at the end of the semester.  She'd taken a

> > > >pronunciation class and kept saying what sounded like "I failed.  I

> > > >failed."  I kept trying to encourage her telling her that she hadn't

> > >failed

> > > >but she was working hard and making some progress.  If she took the

> > >course

> > > >again, she'd do better.  Only to find out that what she was trying to

> >say

> > > >was "I passed.  I passed."

> > > >   Use mirrors!  Have them look at themselves in the mirror as they 

>say

> > >the

> > > >sounds, in initial position as well as word final.  Help them speak

> > >slowly.

> > > >  Have them look at you as you mouth words with stops.  Have them

> >listen

> > > >for the sounds and identify when they hear them.  Have them record

> > > >themselves to see if they can hear them when they've said them.  And 

>in

> > > >pronunciation class, don't pretend you can understand them clearly 

>when

> > >you

> > > >can't.

> > > >   Best wishes.

> > > >   Kathryn Quinn

> > > >     ----- Original Message -----

> > > >   From: Martin Senger

> > > >   To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> > > >   Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:31 PM

> > > >   Subject: [EnglishLanguage 917] Help with pronunciation issues

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >   Pax et bonum all! (peace & goodness)

> > > >

> > > >   I am an adult ESL teacher in Erie, PA. I am looking for 

>information

> >on

> > > >teaching pronunciation skills to SE Asian students, who seem to have 

>a

> > > >particular problem with stops sounds ([p], [b], etc.). Any 

>suggestions

> > > >would be greatly appreciated!

> > > >

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