[EnglishLanguage 1029] Re: pronunciation of edBonnita Solberg bdsunmt at sbcglobal.netThu Jan 18 11:56:34 EST 2007
Megan: I understand your explanation of linking and "jumped in" is a case of linking. However, the pronunciation given is not usual American English linking. In your example of "jump din" you indicate the "p" is voiced, which it is not. The linked pronunciation in American English is "jum tin", with the /p/ unvoiced and "ed" pronounced /t/. To give this word a /d/ sound, it would be pronounced "jumm din". Bonnita Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks Megan, Exactly. That's why truespel for "jumped" has ~jumpd, not ~jumpt as someone who started this thread said it should be according to "the books". The "Beginner's Dictionary of USA English: Truespel Book 3" is the only dictionary I know of that shows at least an alternate pronunciation with the ~d for "t" substitution that you've pointed out. Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+ See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com. >From: "Nestor, Megan" >Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion >List >To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion >List" >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 1010] Re: pronunciation of ed >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:18:10 -0800 > >Hi Thomas. What's happening in the pronunciation of the phrase "He jumped >in" is a result of American English pronunciation and linking. If a word >ends in a consonant sound, and the next word begins in a vowel sound, those >two sounds are linked. Examples: > >He's angry = He sangry >Keep up = Kee pup > > >Also, in American English, when a "t" falls between two vowel sounds, it >sounds like /d/. So, in speaking, the phrase sounds something like this: > >"He jump din" > >Another example where you hear a "t" become /d/: > >Put it away = pu did away > > >Hope that helps, >Megan > >________________________________ > >From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Thomas N. Robb >Sent: Sat 1/13/2007 6:50 PM >To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 997] Re: pronunciation of ed > > >What is happening with the /d/, compared with /t/, endings is technically >called "devoicing". The "voiced consonants" such as /b/, /d/, /g/ and /v/ >tend not to be fully voiced at the end of words, so they end up sounding >pretty much like their unvoiced counterparts /p/, /t/, /k/, and /f/. We >can't really say that they become the same, however, because if the >following word begins with a vowel, then the full voicing is heard. >Compare: > > >He jumped. > >He jumped in. > > >Cheers, > Tom Robb, Japan > > **Join PacCALL http://www.paccall.org >** > >** Thomas Robb, Kyoto Sangyo University, Japan ** >** ** >** http://www.kyoto-su.ac.jp/~trobb/index.html ** ><< winmail.dat >> >---------------------------------------------------- >National Institute for Literacy >Adult English Language Learners mailing list >EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage >Message sent to TRUESPEL at hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Adult English Language Learners mailing list EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage Message sent to bdsunmt at sbcglobal.net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/englishlanguage/attachments/20070118/728fb245/attachment.html
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