Indeed.  The object is to communicate.  Recently I've seen some TV shows 
where actors spoke quickly and mumbled quite a bit in their rolls as 
detectives.  I could not understand them.  And they were native speakers.



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>From: "Steinbacher, Mikal" <msteinbacher at cascadia.ctc.edu>

>Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion 

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>Subject: [EnglishLanguage 1702] Re: Accent Reduction 

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>Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:54:46 -0700

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>Not usually, but those who do not communicate with non-native speakers 

>often are.  Isn't good communication what we are after?

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>Y? were u confused?

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>And eliminate reductions  ... such as "wanna".  I teach my students 

>reductions and what they mean, and then tell them to NOT use them because 

>reductions + accent = confusion for the listener!

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>From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Muro, Andres

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>Appreciate any ideas (feasible) about changing the world.

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>Try to help them acquire fluency in reading, writing and listening skills. 

>You may also wanna try to help them enunciate as clearly as possible. Who 

>cares about accents. As someone else said, the students most likely will 

>have the accent of their own cultural group.

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>Proper enunciation and accent reduction are different things. The former 

>relates to intelligibility, the later refers to elimination of cultural 

>traits.  Talking about accent reduction gives students the idea that their 

>cultural group doesn't' speak properly and that they should sound like Ted 

>Koppel, Peter Jennings, or Carol Kouric, who allegedly don't have accents. 

>It sounds like most people wanna focus on the former. As long as they don't 

>sound like W it's ok.

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>Andres

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