[EnglishLanguage 2071] Re: software suggestionsDavid J. Rosen djrosen at comcast.netWed Jan 16 22:34:45 EST 2008
Colleagues, For ESOL/ESL software I suggest: 1) English for All http://www.myefa.org 2) Recommendations of free ESOL/ESL Web pages and software on The Literacy List at http://alri.org/litlist/esolwebsites.html 3) Recommendations of free ESOL'ESL software Harnessing Technology to Serve Adult Literacy, http://alri.org/harness/harnessesol.html 4) Recommendations on http://newsomeassociates.com/ (Scroll down to the bottom of the page and choose "Publications" then "Adult Literacy Education Software Recommendations" and look at the ESL/ESOL software (free and commercial) David J. Rosen djrosen1 at gmail.com Miriam Burt wrote: > Thank for your question, Josie. > I haven't been in the classroom for a few years, so I don't really > know what's current in software for adult English language learners, > especially for those at the literacy level. Is there software out > there for them? > > How about you all on the list? any suggestions for Josie? > > I can suggest you click on > > http://www.cal.org/caela/esl_resources/SoftwareEvalGuidelines.pdf > > for guidelines to evaluate software that is being used or considered for use. > > Other thoughts, anyone, on this topic? > > Miriam > ********* > Miriam Burt > Center for Adult English Language Acquisition > Center for Applied Linguistics > 4646 40th Street NW > Washington, DC 20016 > (202) 362-0700, ext. 556 (phone) > (202) 363-7204 (fax) > mburt at cal.org <mailto:mburt at cal.org> (email) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of > josiekrame at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:21 PM > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2066] software suggestions > Importance: Low > > > Miriam et al, > > Please suggest some software for low literacy ESOL students. > ASAP. Thank you so much! > > Josie Kramer > > Cleveland, OH > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miriam Burt <mburt at cal.org> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov> > Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 4:48 pm > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2049] Re: New Study on NRS Level Gain > UsingBESTPlus > > List participants: > Frank Finamore, from the Center for Applied Linguististics, asks > that I post the message below to the list for him. > (By the way, if you can't click on the URL given for the policy > guidance [I couldn't] you can get there as I did by copying the > URL and then pasting it in the address bar.) > Best, > Miriam Burt > > Many thanks to all of you who commented on the Center for Applied > Linguistics' digest, "Effects of Instructional Hours and Intensity > of Instruction on NRS Level Gain in Listening and Speaking." As > the digest points out, this was a descriptive study conducted by > CAL, analyzing data from two state partners, Illinois and > Massachusetts. The study was limited, but our intent was to > provide the field with some quantitative data about the > relationship between instructional hours, level of intensity, and > NRS level gain. We agree, as the digest and Larry Condelli point > out, that further research is needed. Although this digest doesn't > answer all of our research questions, it is extremely important > for those of us in the field to begin discussing the issues > addressed and identifying future research opportunities. We would > welcome the opportunity to partner with others interested in > furthering the research in this area. > Concerning the questions raised regarding CAL's guidance on hours > of instruction and post-testing, it is worth noting that our > recommendation (as defined in the State Assessment Policy > Guidance, p. 6, available at > http://www.nrsweb.org/docs/Assessment%20policy%20guidance%20revised%20final%20May%202006a.doc) > of 60 hours minimum, with 80-100 hours recommended is in fact a > "recommended minimum," as stated in the title of the column in the > policy guidance chart -- Recommended Pre- and Post-testing > Timelines. In the same chart, we've provided further guidance for > programs and states to consider when determining when post-testing > may occur. CAL's Adult ESL Assessments Advisory Committee will > meet in April, and we plan to review and possibly modify these > recommendations. In the interim, these recommended timeframes > should be interpreted as recommendations and not definitive > timeframes mandated by CAL as the test publisher. > > > Frank L. Finamore, Jr. > Product and Service Lines Director > (202) 355-1586 > Center for Applied Linguistics > Improving communication through better understanding of language > and culture > www.cal.org <http://www.cal.org/best> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of > Condelli, Larry > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:51 AM > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List > Subject: RE: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level > Gain UsingBESTPlus > > Eduardo, Steve and others, > > The connection between classroom hours or attendance done at > a highly aggregated level as in the CAL study is always very > tenuous. That is, there is generally a weak relationhip > between attendance and learning as measured by standardized > tests like the BEST Plus-- often studies find no > relationship. This is true even in the K-12 arena. While > this might seem strange at first, if you think of all the > factors that go into instruction, what learners actually do, > learner characteristics, prior background, classroom > environment, etc., it perhaps is less surprising. . > Classroom based instruction does not work miracles: the > relative proportion of of time spent in class, especially for > adults, is quite small and everyoen, adutls and children, > learn outsideof the classroom. This points to the need of more > detailed look at learning, especially for adults as > demonstrated in recent logitudinal students (Reder and > others), as SDteve notes. But I do think there is value to > such analyses as CAL's in that it points out possible > relationships and raises questions for further study. > > In my own research on literacy level ESL students, we found > that proportion of time attended had a positive impact on (the > old) BEST scores. That is, students that attended a larger > proportion of available time improved more on the BEST. So, > for example, if the class met 10 hours per week, students who > attended an average of 8 of those hours (80%) gained more than > students who attended an average of 4 hours per week (40%), > all else being equal. This relationship held no matter how > many total hours of attendance a student had. I think this > relationship was due at least partly to motivation -- more > motivated students attend more regualrly and learn more. > As for the number of students in adult ESL stated in the CAL > report, this represents the students in the federally funded > state (WIA Title II) program). California has many more adult > ESL students in other, state funded programs and of course > there are many other ESL students in programs funded through > other sources. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov> on behalf of Eduardo > Honold > Sent: Tue 1/8/2008 6:25 PM > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level > Gain UsingBESTPlus > > Steve and others, > > I was also surprised by the seemingly erratic nature of the > results in Table 6 of the CAL study that related hours of > instruction to educational functional gains. A clearer > picture begins to appear when you do a simple z-test to > determine whether the % of completions of students who had > more than 60 hours of instruction is statistically significant > compared to the baseline. As it turns out there are very few > significant differences in the table, with the exception of > Beginning Literacy students, among whom t the difference in > the % of completions is statistically significant in > comparison to the baseline after 80 hours of instruction. > Interestingly, there are no significant results for Low Beg. > ESL, High Intermediate ESL, and Advanced ESL. There is a > statistically significant difference in completion rates for > High Beginning ESL after 120 hours of instruction and for Low > Intermediate ESL after 140 or more hours. Seemingly > incomprehensible drops in the level of completions for some of > the groups with more hours of instruction are very small and > probably not statistically significant. > > Some of these results may be an artifact of the study's > sampling strategy. Beginning Literacy ESL shows the most > significant improvement in hours of instruction, and, not > surprisingly, the sample size for those groups are much larger > (e.g. 1720 for Beg. Literacy vs. 252 for Advanced ESL), as a > result some of the sub-groups are very small, and may lead to > statistically insignificant results. For instance, the > sample size for Low Beginning students who received 120-139 > hours of instruction is only 37; as a result, the improvement > from 75% to 86% in completions was rendered statistically > insignificant. With a sample size of at least 200 that same > result would have been statistically significant. Clearly, > the study needs to have a much larger sample for each group. > > I concur with Steve's observation that level of completions > found in this sample was much higher compared to the national > ESL population (congratulations MA and IL), but it may have > also contributed to the relatively low impact that hours of > instruction had on the completion rates of Low and High > Beginning ESL. Both of these groups started a very high level > of completions (75% and 72%) with less than 60 hours of > instruction. There just wasn't a lot of room for improvement > there. > > Considering the nature of the study, many of the findings are > inconclusive or "descriptive" as the study calls them, so I am > not quite ready to dismiss the impact of teaching hours on > attainment, and I believe we do have other (better) studies > that support this connection. I hope CAL will produce a study > that actually answers some of these questions. > > While we are speculating, however, the data in the study does > raise some questions about the requirement that students > receive 60 hours of instruction before taking a post-test > with the BEST Plus. According to CAL's own data there is no > statistically significant difference in the completion rates > of students receiving less than 60 hours compared to those in > the 60-79 hour range for all functional levels. In the > meantime many programs across Texas (and across the country I > assume) are no longer able to count completions they would > have obtained from students who leave untested before the 60 > hours. Is there a clear rationale for this rule? > > > > Eduardo Honold > ehonol at sisd.net <mailto:ehonol at sisd.net> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of Steve > Kaufmann > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:54 PM > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2042] Re: New Study on NRS Level > Gain Using BESTPlus > > More hours of classroom instruction, and more intense > instruction, should lead to better results, otherwise why > bother? The real question is how much improvement is required > to justify the time and money expended by learners, teachers > and tax-payers. > > 1.2 million adults are enrolled in federally funded adult ESL > classes in the United States. 36% of these students attained > a measurable educational level gain after a course of > instruction. In this survey of 6,599 adults, 60% showed > improvement. Obviously being in a survey has a big impact on > improvement results! > > Almost half (49%) of the ESL learners in the survey were at > level 0 and 1 on the SPL scale, i.e. "no ability whatsoever' > or "functions minimally if at all in English." Almost 20% were > Low and High Beginner level learners (2 and 3 on the scale). > Level 3 is described as "understands simple learned phrases, > spoken slowly with frequent repetitions". At the other end of > the scale 7% of the adults surveyed were Advanced or level 6 > on the scale, described as " can satisfy most survival needs > and limited social demands." Even the advanced learners were > still at a basic level. > >>From the tables in the report,it appears that the biggest > factor affecting grade improvement was not hours of > instruction but the level of the learner. Beginner learners > (level 2 and 3 on the scale) improved the most and were the > least affected by the amount of instruction. Of those Low and > High Beginners who had the least amount of instruction ( > between 2 and 60 hours) almost 75% still managed to improve, > whereas this only went up to 84% for those who had between 140 > and up to 512 hours of instruction, i.e. probably at least 3 > times as many hours of classroom instruction . We are told in > the report that 78%, or almost 4 out of 5 of these Low and > High Beginner learners improved regardless of the number of > hours of instruction. > > The largest group, those with essentially no English > skills(49%), as well as the most advanced group (7%), showed > the lowest level of improvement, but seemed to benefit the > greatest from instruction. The report does not explain this > nor the fact that the rate of improvement sometimes declines > with increased instruction.(see tables) > > Intensity of instruction does not have a great affect on > results. The largest group ( 57%) studied an average of 4.5 > hours per week and 61% of these learners showed measurable > improvement on the scale. However 31% of the survey group had > less than 2.8 hours per week of instruction and yet 56% still > managed to improve. The intense group, roughly 12% of the > learners, studied more than 9.3 hours per week. Despite more > than double the hours of instruction, compared to the middle > group, the percentage of learners with measurable improvement > only increased from 61% to 66%. Again it was the Low and High > Beginners who improved the most, with the least impact from > instructional intensity. > > To me the conclusion is that class instruction obviously does > help but not as much as is often assumed. Instead, I suspect > that what really matters is what the learner does outside the > classroom. As the report says, an adult ESL learner has > limited time to spend, "typically 4 and 8 hours per week". > Surely we should focus on finding ways to enable these > learners to create more time for learning. In other words we > should find ways to make it easier and more effective for them > to learn outside the classroom, and to encourage them to do > so, instead of trying to justify bringing them to class. > Classroom time does not seem to have a decisive impact on > their improvement. > >---------------------------------------------------- >National Institute for Literacy >Adult English Language Learners mailing list >EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov <mailto:EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov> >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage >Email delivered to josiekrame at aol.com <mailto:josiekrame at aol.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > More new features than ever. 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