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[EnglishLanguage 2071] Re: software suggestions
David J. Rosen
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Colleagues,
For ESOL/ESL software I suggest:
1) English for All http://www.myefa.org
2) Recommendations of free ESOL/ESL Web pages and software on The
Literacy List at http://alri.org/litlist/esolwebsites.html
3) Recommendations of free ESOL'ESL software Harnessing Technology to
Serve Adult Literacy, http://alri.org/harness/harnessesol.html
4) Recommendations on http://newsomeassociates.com/ (Scroll down to the
bottom of the page and choose "Publications" then "Adult Literacy
Education Software Recommendations" and look at the ESL/ESOL software
(free and commercial)
David J. Rosen
djrosen1 at gmail.com
Miriam Burt wrote:
> Thank for your question, Josie.
> I haven't been in the classroom for a few years, so I don't really
> know what's current in software for adult English language learners,
> especially for those at the literacy level. Is there software out
> there for them?
>
> How about you all on the list? any suggestions for Josie?
>
> I can suggest you click on
>
> http://www.cal.org/caela/esl_resources/SoftwareEvalGuidelines.pdf
>
> for guidelines to evaluate software that is being used or considered for use.
>
> Other thoughts, anyone, on this topic?
>
> Miriam
> *********
> Miriam Burt
> Center for Adult English Language Acquisition
> Center for Applied Linguistics
> 4646 40th Street NW
> Washington, DC 20016
> (202) 362-0700, ext. 556 (phone)
> (202) 363-7204 (fax)
> mburt at cal.org <mailto:mburt at cal.org> (email)
>
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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of
> josiekrame at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:21 PM
> To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov
> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2066] software suggestions
> Importance: Low
>
>
> Miriam et al,
>
> Please suggest some software for low literacy ESOL students.
> ASAP. Thank you so much!
>
> Josie Kramer
>
> Cleveland, OH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miriam Burt <mburt at cal.org>
> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>
> Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 4:48 pm
> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2049] Re: New Study on NRS Level Gain
> UsingBESTPlus
>
> List participants:
> Frank Finamore, from the Center for Applied Linguististics, asks
> that I post the message below to the list for him.
> (By the way, if you can't click on the URL given for the policy
> guidance [I couldn't] you can get there as I did by copying the
> URL and then pasting it in the address bar.)
> Best,
> Miriam Burt
>
> Many thanks to all of you who commented on the Center for Applied
> Linguistics' digest, "Effects of Instructional Hours and Intensity
> of Instruction on NRS Level Gain in Listening and Speaking." As
> the digest points out, this was a descriptive study conducted by
> CAL, analyzing data from two state partners, Illinois and
> Massachusetts. The study was limited, but our intent was to
> provide the field with some quantitative data about the
> relationship between instructional hours, level of intensity, and
> NRS level gain. We agree, as the digest and Larry Condelli point
> out, that further research is needed. Although this digest doesn't
> answer all of our research questions, it is extremely important
> for those of us in the field to begin discussing the issues
> addressed and identifying future research opportunities. We would
> welcome the opportunity to partner with others interested in
> furthering the research in this area.
> Concerning the questions raised regarding CAL's guidance on hours
> of instruction and post-testing, it is worth noting that our
> recommendation (as defined in the State Assessment Policy
> Guidance, p. 6, available at
> http://www.nrsweb.org/docs/Assessment%20policy%20guidance%20revised%20final%20May%202006a.doc)
> of 60 hours minimum, with 80-100 hours recommended is in fact a
> "recommended minimum," as stated in the title of the column in the
> policy guidance chart -- Recommended Pre- and Post-testing
> Timelines. In the same chart, we've provided further guidance for
> programs and states to consider when determining when post-testing
> may occur. CAL's Adult ESL Assessments Advisory Committee will
> meet in April, and we plan to review and possibly modify these
> recommendations. In the interim, these recommended timeframes
> should be interpreted as recommendations and not definitive
> timeframes mandated by CAL as the test publisher.
>
>
> Frank L. Finamore, Jr.
> Product and Service Lines Director
> (202) 355-1586
> Center for Applied Linguistics
> Improving communication through better understanding of language
> and culture
> www.cal.org <http://www.cal.org/best>
>
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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov>
> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of
> Condelli, Larry
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:51 AM
> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level
> Gain UsingBESTPlus
>
> Eduardo, Steve and others,
>
> The connection between classroom hours or attendance done at
> a highly aggregated level as in the CAL study is always very
> tenuous. That is, there is generally a weak relationhip
> between attendance and learning as measured by standardized
> tests like the BEST Plus-- often studies find no
> relationship. This is true even in the K-12 arena. While
> this might seem strange at first, if you think of all the
> factors that go into instruction, what learners actually do,
> learner characteristics, prior background, classroom
> environment, etc., it perhaps is less surprising. .
> Classroom based instruction does not work miracles: the
> relative proportion of of time spent in class, especially for
> adults, is quite small and everyoen, adutls and children,
> learn outsideof the classroom. This points to the need of more
> detailed look at learning, especially for adults as
> demonstrated in recent logitudinal students (Reder and
> others), as SDteve notes. But I do think there is value to
> such analyses as CAL's in that it points out possible
> relationships and raises questions for further study.
>
> In my own research on literacy level ESL students, we found
> that proportion of time attended had a positive impact on (the
> old) BEST scores. That is, students that attended a larger
> proportion of available time improved more on the BEST. So,
> for example, if the class met 10 hours per week, students who
> attended an average of 8 of those hours (80%) gained more than
> students who attended an average of 4 hours per week (40%),
> all else being equal. This relationship held no matter how
> many total hours of attendance a student had. I think this
> relationship was due at least partly to motivation -- more
> motivated students attend more regualrly and learn more.
> As for the number of students in adult ESL stated in the CAL
> report, this represents the students in the federally funded
> state (WIA Title II) program). California has many more adult
> ESL students in other, state funded programs and of course
> there are many other ESL students in programs funded through
> other sources.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov> on behalf of Eduardo
> Honold
> Sent: Tue 1/8/2008 6:25 PM
> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level
> Gain UsingBESTPlus
>
> Steve and others,
>
> I was also surprised by the seemingly erratic nature of the
> results in Table 6 of the CAL study that related hours of
> instruction to educational functional gains. A clearer
> picture begins to appear when you do a simple z-test to
> determine whether the % of completions of students who had
> more than 60 hours of instruction is statistically significant
> compared to the baseline. As it turns out there are very few
> significant differences in the table, with the exception of
> Beginning Literacy students, among whom t the difference in
> the % of completions is statistically significant in
> comparison to the baseline after 80 hours of instruction.
> Interestingly, there are no significant results for Low Beg.
> ESL, High Intermediate ESL, and Advanced ESL. There is a
> statistically significant difference in completion rates for
> High Beginning ESL after 120 hours of instruction and for Low
> Intermediate ESL after 140 or more hours. Seemingly
> incomprehensible drops in the level of completions for some of
> the groups with more hours of instruction are very small and
> probably not statistically significant.
>
> Some of these results may be an artifact of the study's
> sampling strategy. Beginning Literacy ESL shows the most
> significant improvement in hours of instruction, and, not
> surprisingly, the sample size for those groups are much larger
> (e.g. 1720 for Beg. Literacy vs. 252 for Advanced ESL), as a
> result some of the sub-groups are very small, and may lead to
> statistically insignificant results. For instance, the
> sample size for Low Beginning students who received 120-139
> hours of instruction is only 37; as a result, the improvement
> from 75% to 86% in completions was rendered statistically
> insignificant. With a sample size of at least 200 that same
> result would have been statistically significant. Clearly,
> the study needs to have a much larger sample for each group.
>
> I concur with Steve's observation that level of completions
> found in this sample was much higher compared to the national
> ESL population (congratulations MA and IL), but it may have
> also contributed to the relatively low impact that hours of
> instruction had on the completion rates of Low and High
> Beginning ESL. Both of these groups started a very high level
> of completions (75% and 72%) with less than 60 hours of
> instruction. There just wasn't a lot of room for improvement
> there.
>
> Considering the nature of the study, many of the findings are
> inconclusive or "descriptive" as the study calls them, so I am
> not quite ready to dismiss the impact of teaching hours on
> attainment, and I believe we do have other (better) studies
> that support this connection. I hope CAL will produce a study
> that actually answers some of these questions.
>
> While we are speculating, however, the data in the study does
> raise some questions about the requirement that students
> receive 60 hours of instruction before taking a post-test
> with the BEST Plus. According to CAL's own data there is no
> statistically significant difference in the completion rates
> of students receiving less than 60 hours compared to those in
> the 60-79 hour range for all functional levels. In the
> meantime many programs across Texas (and across the country I
> assume) are no longer able to count completions they would
> have obtained from students who leave untested before the 60
> hours. Is there a clear rationale for this rule?
>
>
>
> Eduardo Honold
> ehonol at sisd.net <mailto:ehonol at sisd.net>
>
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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov>
> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of Steve
> Kaufmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:54 PM
> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2042] Re: New Study on NRS Level
> Gain Using BESTPlus
>
> More hours of classroom instruction, and more intense
> instruction, should lead to better results, otherwise why
> bother? The real question is how much improvement is required
> to justify the time and money expended by learners, teachers
> and tax-payers.
>
> 1.2 million adults are enrolled in federally funded adult ESL
> classes in the United States. 36% of these students attained
> a measurable educational level gain after a course of
> instruction. In this survey of 6,599 adults, 60% showed
> improvement. Obviously being in a survey has a big impact on
> improvement results!
>
> Almost half (49%) of the ESL learners in the survey were at
> level 0 and 1 on the SPL scale, i.e. "no ability whatsoever'
> or "functions minimally if at all in English." Almost 20% were
> Low and High Beginner level learners (2 and 3 on the scale).
> Level 3 is described as "understands simple learned phrases,
> spoken slowly with frequent repetitions". At the other end of
> the scale 7% of the adults surveyed were Advanced or level 6
> on the scale, described as " can satisfy most survival needs
> and limited social demands." Even the advanced learners were
> still at a basic level.
>
>>From the tables in the report,it appears that the biggest
> factor affecting grade improvement was not hours of
> instruction but the level of the learner. Beginner learners
> (level 2 and 3 on the scale) improved the most and were the
> least affected by the amount of instruction. Of those Low and
> High Beginners who had the least amount of instruction (
> between 2 and 60 hours) almost 75% still managed to improve,
> whereas this only went up to 84% for those who had between 140
> and up to 512 hours of instruction, i.e. probably at least 3
> times as many hours of classroom instruction . We are told in
> the report that 78%, or almost 4 out of 5 of these Low and
> High Beginner learners improved regardless of the number of
> hours of instruction.
>
> The largest group, those with essentially no English
> skills(49%), as well as the most advanced group (7%), showed
> the lowest level of improvement, but seemed to benefit the
> greatest from instruction. The report does not explain this
> nor the fact that the rate of improvement sometimes declines
> with increased instruction.(see tables)
>
> Intensity of instruction does not have a great affect on
> results. The largest group ( 57%) studied an average of 4.5
> hours per week and 61% of these learners showed measurable
> improvement on the scale. However 31% of the survey group had
> less than 2.8 hours per week of instruction and yet 56% still
> managed to improve. The intense group, roughly 12% of the
> learners, studied more than 9.3 hours per week. Despite more
> than double the hours of instruction, compared to the middle
> group, the percentage of learners with measurable improvement
> only increased from 61% to 66%. Again it was the Low and High
> Beginners who improved the most, with the least impact from
> instructional intensity.
>
> To me the conclusion is that class instruction obviously does
> help but not as much as is often assumed. Instead, I suspect
> that what really matters is what the learner does outside the
> classroom. As the report says, an adult ESL learner has
> limited time to spend, "typically 4 and 8 hours per week".
> Surely we should focus on finding ways to enable these
> learners to create more time for learning. In other words we
> should find ways to make it easier and more effective for them
> to learn outside the classroom, and to encourage them to do
> so, instead of trying to justify bringing them to class.
> Classroom time does not seem to have a decisive impact on
> their improvement.
>
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