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[EnglishLanguage 2071] Re: software suggestions

David J. Rosen djrosen at comcast.net
Wed Jan 16 22:34:45 EST 2008


Colleagues,

For ESOL/ESL software I suggest:

1) English for All http://www.myefa.org
2) Recommendations of free ESOL/ESL Web pages and software on The
Literacy List at http://alri.org/litlist/esolwebsites.html
3) Recommendations of free ESOL'ESL software Harnessing Technology to
Serve Adult Literacy, http://alri.org/harness/harnessesol.html
4) Recommendations on http://newsomeassociates.com/ (Scroll down to the
bottom of the page and choose "Publications" then "Adult Literacy
Education Software Recommendations" and look at the ESL/ESOL software
(free and commercial)

David J. Rosen
djrosen1 at gmail.com


Miriam Burt wrote:


> Thank for your question, Josie.

> I haven't been in the classroom for a few years, so I don't really

> know what's current in software for adult English language learners,

> especially for those at the literacy level. Is there software out

> there for them?

>

> How about you all on the list? any suggestions for Josie?

>

> I can suggest you click on

>

> http://www.cal.org/caela/esl_resources/SoftwareEvalGuidelines.pdf

>

> for guidelines to evaluate software that is being used or considered for use.

>

> Other thoughts, anyone, on this topic?

>

> Miriam

> *********

> Miriam Burt

> Center for Adult English Language Acquisition

> Center for Applied Linguistics

> 4646 40th Street NW

> Washington, DC 20016

> (202) 362-0700, ext. 556 (phone)

> (202) 363-7204 (fax)

> mburt at cal.org <mailto:mburt at cal.org> (email)

>

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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of

> josiekrame at aol.com

> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:21 PM

> To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2066] software suggestions

> Importance: Low

>

>

> Miriam et al,

>

> Please suggest some software for low literacy ESOL students.

> ASAP. Thank you so much!

>

> Josie Kramer

>

> Cleveland, OH

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Miriam Burt <mburt at cal.org>

> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>

> Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 4:48 pm

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2049] Re: New Study on NRS Level Gain

> UsingBESTPlus

>

> List participants:

> Frank Finamore, from the Center for Applied Linguististics, asks

> that I post the message below to the list for him.

> (By the way, if you can't click on the URL given for the policy

> guidance [I couldn't] you can get there as I did by copying the

> URL and then pasting it in the address bar.)

> Best,

> Miriam Burt

>

> Many thanks to all of you who commented on the Center for Applied

> Linguistics' digest, "Effects of Instructional Hours and Intensity

> of Instruction on NRS Level Gain in Listening and Speaking." As

> the digest points out, this was a descriptive study conducted by

> CAL, analyzing data from two state partners, Illinois and

> Massachusetts. The study was limited, but our intent was to

> provide the field with some quantitative data about the

> relationship between instructional hours, level of intensity, and

> NRS level gain. We agree, as the digest and Larry Condelli point

> out, that further research is needed. Although this digest doesn't

> answer all of our research questions, it is extremely important

> for those of us in the field to begin discussing the issues

> addressed and identifying future research opportunities. We would

> welcome the opportunity to partner with others interested in

> furthering the research in this area.

> Concerning the questions raised regarding CAL's guidance on hours

> of instruction and post-testing, it is worth noting that our

> recommendation (as defined in the State Assessment Policy

> Guidance, p. 6, available at

> http://www.nrsweb.org/docs/Assessment%20policy%20guidance%20revised%20final%20May%202006a.doc)

> of 60 hours minimum, with 80-100 hours recommended is in fact a

> "recommended minimum," as stated in the title of the column in the

> policy guidance chart -- Recommended Pre- and Post-testing

> Timelines. In the same chart, we've provided further guidance for

> programs and states to consider when determining when post-testing

> may occur. CAL's Adult ESL Assessments Advisory Committee will

> meet in April, and we plan to review and possibly modify these

> recommendations. In the interim, these recommended timeframes

> should be interpreted as recommendations and not definitive

> timeframes mandated by CAL as the test publisher.

>

>

> Frank L. Finamore, Jr.

> Product and Service Lines Director

> (202) 355-1586

> Center for Applied Linguistics

> Improving communication through better understanding of language

> and culture

> www.cal.org <http://www.cal.org/best>

>

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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov>

> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of

> Condelli, Larry

> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:51 AM

> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> Subject: RE: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level

> Gain UsingBESTPlus

>

> Eduardo, Steve and others,

>

> The connection between classroom hours or attendance done at

> a highly aggregated level as in the CAL study is always very

> tenuous. That is, there is generally a weak relationhip

> between attendance and learning as measured by standardized

> tests like the BEST Plus-- often studies find no

> relationship. This is true even in the K-12 arena. While

> this might seem strange at first, if you think of all the

> factors that go into instruction, what learners actually do,

> learner characteristics, prior background, classroom

> environment, etc., it perhaps is less surprising. .

> Classroom based instruction does not work miracles: the

> relative proportion of of time spent in class, especially for

> adults, is quite small and everyoen, adutls and children,

> learn outsideof the classroom. This points to the need of more

> detailed look at learning, especially for adults as

> demonstrated in recent logitudinal students (Reder and

> others), as SDteve notes. But I do think there is value to

> such analyses as CAL's in that it points out possible

> relationships and raises questions for further study.

>

> In my own research on literacy level ESL students, we found

> that proportion of time attended had a positive impact on (the

> old) BEST scores. That is, students that attended a larger

> proportion of available time improved more on the BEST. So,

> for example, if the class met 10 hours per week, students who

> attended an average of 8 of those hours (80%) gained more than

> students who attended an average of 4 hours per week (40%),

> all else being equal. This relationship held no matter how

> many total hours of attendance a student had. I think this

> relationship was due at least partly to motivation -- more

> motivated students attend more regualrly and learn more.

> As for the number of students in adult ESL stated in the CAL

> report, this represents the students in the federally funded

> state (WIA Title II) program). California has many more adult

> ESL students in other, state funded programs and of course

> there are many other ESL students in programs funded through

> other sources.

>

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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov> on behalf of Eduardo

> Honold

> Sent: Tue 1/8/2008 6:25 PM

> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2044] Re: New Study on NRS Level

> Gain UsingBESTPlus

>

> Steve and others,

>

> I was also surprised by the seemingly erratic nature of the

> results in Table 6 of the CAL study that related hours of

> instruction to educational functional gains. A clearer

> picture begins to appear when you do a simple z-test to

> determine whether the % of completions of students who had

> more than 60 hours of instruction is statistically significant

> compared to the baseline. As it turns out there are very few

> significant differences in the table, with the exception of

> Beginning Literacy students, among whom t the difference in

> the % of completions is statistically significant in

> comparison to the baseline after 80 hours of instruction.

> Interestingly, there are no significant results for Low Beg.

> ESL, High Intermediate ESL, and Advanced ESL. There is a

> statistically significant difference in completion rates for

> High Beginning ESL after 120 hours of instruction and for Low

> Intermediate ESL after 140 or more hours. Seemingly

> incomprehensible drops in the level of completions for some of

> the groups with more hours of instruction are very small and

> probably not statistically significant.

>

> Some of these results may be an artifact of the study's

> sampling strategy. Beginning Literacy ESL shows the most

> significant improvement in hours of instruction, and, not

> surprisingly, the sample size for those groups are much larger

> (e.g. 1720 for Beg. Literacy vs. 252 for Advanced ESL), as a

> result some of the sub-groups are very small, and may lead to

> statistically insignificant results. For instance, the

> sample size for Low Beginning students who received 120-139

> hours of instruction is only 37; as a result, the improvement

> from 75% to 86% in completions was rendered statistically

> insignificant. With a sample size of at least 200 that same

> result would have been statistically significant. Clearly,

> the study needs to have a much larger sample for each group.

>

> I concur with Steve's observation that level of completions

> found in this sample was much higher compared to the national

> ESL population (congratulations MA and IL), but it may have

> also contributed to the relatively low impact that hours of

> instruction had on the completion rates of Low and High

> Beginning ESL. Both of these groups started a very high level

> of completions (75% and 72%) with less than 60 hours of

> instruction. There just wasn't a lot of room for improvement

> there.

>

> Considering the nature of the study, many of the findings are

> inconclusive or "descriptive" as the study calls them, so I am

> not quite ready to dismiss the impact of teaching hours on

> attainment, and I believe we do have other (better) studies

> that support this connection. I hope CAL will produce a study

> that actually answers some of these questions.

>

> While we are speculating, however, the data in the study does

> raise some questions about the requirement that students

> receive 60 hours of instruction before taking a post-test

> with the BEST Plus. According to CAL's own data there is no

> statistically significant difference in the completion rates

> of students receiving less than 60 hours compared to those in

> the 60-79 hour range for all functional levels. In the

> meantime many programs across Texas (and across the country I

> assume) are no longer able to count completions they would

> have obtained from students who leave untested before the 60

> hours. Is there a clear rationale for this rule?

>

>

>

> Eduardo Honold

> ehonol at sisd.net <mailto:ehonol at sisd.net>

>

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> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

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> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> <mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov?>] On Behalf Of Steve

> Kaufmann

> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:54 PM

> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2042] Re: New Study on NRS Level

> Gain Using BESTPlus

>

> More hours of classroom instruction, and more intense

> instruction, should lead to better results, otherwise why

> bother? The real question is how much improvement is required

> to justify the time and money expended by learners, teachers

> and tax-payers.

>

> 1.2 million adults are enrolled in federally funded adult ESL

> classes in the United States. 36% of these students attained

> a measurable educational level gain after a course of

> instruction. In this survey of 6,599 adults, 60% showed

> improvement. Obviously being in a survey has a big impact on

> improvement results!

>

> Almost half (49%) of the ESL learners in the survey were at

> level 0 and 1 on the SPL scale, i.e. "no ability whatsoever'

> or "functions minimally if at all in English." Almost 20% were

> Low and High Beginner level learners (2 and 3 on the scale).

> Level 3 is described as "understands simple learned phrases,

> spoken slowly with frequent repetitions". At the other end of

> the scale 7% of the adults surveyed were Advanced or level 6

> on the scale, described as " can satisfy most survival needs

> and limited social demands." Even the advanced learners were

> still at a basic level.

>

>>From the tables in the report,it appears that the biggest

> factor affecting grade improvement was not hours of

> instruction but the level of the learner. Beginner learners

> (level 2 and 3 on the scale) improved the most and were the

> least affected by the amount of instruction. Of those Low and

> High Beginners who had the least amount of instruction (

> between 2 and 60 hours) almost 75% still managed to improve,

> whereas this only went up to 84% for those who had between 140

> and up to 512 hours of instruction, i.e. probably at least 3

> times as many hours of classroom instruction . We are told in

> the report that 78%, or almost 4 out of 5 of these Low and

> High Beginner learners improved regardless of the number of

> hours of instruction.

>

> The largest group, those with essentially no English

> skills(49%), as well as the most advanced group (7%), showed

> the lowest level of improvement, but seemed to benefit the

> greatest from instruction. The report does not explain this

> nor the fact that the rate of improvement sometimes declines

> with increased instruction.(see tables)

>

> Intensity of instruction does not have a great affect on

> results. The largest group ( 57%) studied an average of 4.5

> hours per week and 61% of these learners showed measurable

> improvement on the scale. However 31% of the survey group had

> less than 2.8 hours per week of instruction and yet 56% still

> managed to improve. The intense group, roughly 12% of the

> learners, studied more than 9.3 hours per week. Despite more

> than double the hours of instruction, compared to the middle

> group, the percentage of learners with measurable improvement

> only increased from 61% to 66%. Again it was the Low and High

> Beginners who improved the most, with the least impact from

> instructional intensity.

>

> To me the conclusion is that class instruction obviously does

> help but not as much as is often assumed. Instead, I suspect

> that what really matters is what the learner does outside the

> classroom. As the report says, an adult ESL learner has

> limited time to spend, "typically 4 and 8 hours per week".

> Surely we should focus on finding ways to enable these

> learners to create more time for learning. In other words we

> should find ways to make it easier and more effective for them

> to learn outside the classroom, and to encourage them to do

> so, instead of trying to justify bringing them to class.

> Classroom time does not seem to have a decisive impact on

> their improvement.

>

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