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[EnglishLanguage 2294] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, Issue 18

Emma Bourassa ebourassa at tru.ca
Thu May 1 18:41:56 EDT 2008


I believe it is Pronunciation Pairs that has illustrations, single word and short dialogue practice. For example there might be:
sit seat
bit beat

etc. which is then worked into a conversation:
A: Bea, have a seat.
B: I can eat but can't sit.
A: Sit in the seat, and eat your meat.
B: No, I need to knit.
sorta silly but they do work for slow practice of moving the mouth and tongue around.
Pictures with mirrors so students can watch themselves works well.
e

Emma Bourassa
English as a Second or Additional Language/ Teaching English as a Second Language Instructor
ESL Department
Thompson Rivers University
900 McGill Road. P.O. Box 3010
Kamloops, B.C. V2C 5N3
(250) 371-5895
fax 371-5514
ebourassa at tru.ca


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From: Andrea Canter <lucidpandora at gmail.com>
To: <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>
Date: 29/04/2008 12:03 pm
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2292] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, Issue 18

Jenny,

Eek! That's the issue I'm coming up against soon. The way I've been doing it
works with the roman alphabet (and easiest with just one native language in
the group). I have this book that has Spanish translations of English
vocabulary words. Then it has the pronunciation of the word spelled out in
Spanish phonetics. I just borrow those phonetics for any word I come across:
(ex. Raise your hand = reiz yor jand). Sometimes there isn't a sound in
Spanish that quite matches the one in English and I have to wrk around it
(ex. the word 'sit'.... there isn't anything in Spanish that sounds like the
'i' in that word.... I told my class it sounds some where between 'eh' and
'ee' and they got it).

The thing with non-Roman alphabets is unless you speak the language, it
would be quite a task to do it that way. Then if you have people with
differing languages, it would be even worse. If all the people in your class
know the Roman alphabet, then I have a link to a website that has books and
workshops on a unique system to teach pronunciation with. I haven't tried
the method, but it looks really cool. Let me know if you want the address.
Hope this (any of it) helps!

Andrea

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> Andrea:

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> Could you give more details about how you teach pronunciation to speakers

> of

> other languages? We have many Latinos, also some Koreans and a student

> from

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> This is a neat concept, but if you're like me and teach adults in venues

> without computers there needs to be something else. Since my class is

> entirely Hispanic, I use Spanish phonics to help. For some sounds I have

> to

> go into further explanation because there is no Spanish equivalent, but

> for

> the most part it translates. This has worked SO well!! They have near

> perfect pronunciation instantly!! I'm getting ready to start a class with

> people from all over the world now. I have no idea how to address the

> issue

> with them- any suggestions??

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> sound (Molly Elkins)

> 2. [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> sound (Tom Zurinskas)

> 3. [EnglishLanguage 2288] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

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> From: "Molly Elkins" <melkins at dclibraries.org>

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> sound

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> I think it is pretty interesting-

>

> My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on my

> pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners

> have

> complained about media that is British instead of American pronunciation.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Molly Elkins

> Literacy Specialist

> Douglas County Libraries

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> Castle Rock CO 80104

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> [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne Greenberg

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> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound

>

> ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good, or

> if

> it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine

> introduced

> me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with Instant

> Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great idea

> for

> learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to

> have

> some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site because

> they

> need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced.

>

> The url is: http://howjsay.com/

>

> I am curious what people on this list think about this site.

>

> Daphne

>

> Daphne Greenberg

> Associate Professor

> Educational Psych. & Special Ed.

> Georgia State University

> P.O. Box 3979

> Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979

> phone: 404-413-8337

> fax:404-413-8043

> dgreenberg at gsu.edu

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> Daphne Greenberg

> Associate Director

> Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> Georgia State University

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> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:13:32 +0000

> From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com>

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> sound

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> m-w.com is a marvelous dictionary that you can click on to hear words in

> US

> accent. The only nits I pick are what I call "awe-dropping" where the

> sound

> "awe" is replaced sometimes by "ah". Click on the word "flaw" to hear it

> correctly (note, the word "awe" is said "ah"). Another nit is that words

> starting with "ex-" are said to be spoken as "ix-" (so example is

> ixample).

> I don't think that is the norm in USA but perhaps UK.

>

> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+

> See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at

> authorhouse.com.

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> > From: melkins at dclibraries.org

> > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0600

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> sound

> >

> > I think it is pretty interesting-

> >

> > My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on my

> > pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners

> have

> > complained about media that is British instead of American

> pronunciation.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Molly Elkins

> > Literacy Specialist

> > Douglas County Libraries

> > Phillip S. Miller Library

> > 100 S. Wilcox Street

> > Castle Rock CO 80104

> > Map

> > Direct Phone: (303)688-7646

> > Alt Phone: (303) 791-READ

> > Fax: (303) 688-7655

> > Email: melkins at dclibraries.org

> > Web: www.DouglasCountyLibraries.org

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne Greenberg

> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:00 PM

> > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound

> >

> > ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good,

> or

> if

> > it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine

> introduced

> > me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with

> Instant

> > Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great idea

> for

> > learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to

> have

> > some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site because

> they

> > need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced.

> >

> > The url is: http://howjsay.com/

> >

> > I am curious what people on this list think about this site.

> >

> > Daphne

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Associate Professor

> > Educational Psych. & Special Ed.

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3979

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979

> > phone: 404-413-8337

> > fax:404-413-8043

> > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Associate Director

> > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3977

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977

> > phone: 404-413-8337

> > fax:404-413-8043

> > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

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