[EnglishLanguage 2296] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 32, Issue 1Andrea Canter lucidpandora at gmail.comFri May 2 14:48:04 EDT 2008
Is Pronunciation Pairs a book? Andrea On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:00 PM, <englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov> wrote: > Send EnglishLanguage mailing list submissions to > englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov > > You can reach the person managing the list at > englishlanguage-owner at nifl.gov > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of EnglishLanguage digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [EnglishLanguage 2294] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, > Issue 18 (Emma Bourassa) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:41:56 -0700 > From: "Emma Bourassa" <ebourassa at tru.ca> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2294] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, > Issue 18 > To: <englishlanguage at nifl.gov> > Message-ID: <4819F2D4.8103.007D.0 at tru.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I believe it is Pronunciation Pairs that has illustrations, single word > and short dialogue practice. For example there might be: > sit seat > bit beat > > etc. which is then worked into a conversation: > A: Bea, have a seat. > B: I can eat but can't sit. > A: Sit in the seat, and eat your meat. > B: No, I need to knit. > sorta silly but they do work for slow practice of moving the mouth and > tongue around. > Pictures with mirrors so students can watch themselves works well. > e > > Emma Bourassa > English as a Second or Additional Language/ Teaching English as a Second > Language Instructor > ESL Department > Thompson Rivers University > 900 McGill Road. P.O. Box 3010 > Kamloops, B.C. V2C 5N3 > (250) 371-5895 > fax 371-5514 > ebourassa at tru.ca > > >>> > From: Andrea Canter <lucidpandora at gmail.com> > To: <englishlanguage at nifl.gov> > Date: 29/04/2008 12:03 pm > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2292] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, > Issue 18 > > Jenny, > > Eek! That's the issue I'm coming up against soon. The way I've been doing > it > works with the roman alphabet (and easiest with just one native language > in > the group). I have this book that has Spanish translations of English > vocabulary words. Then it has the pronunciation of the word spelled out in > Spanish phonetics. I just borrow those phonetics for any word I come > across: > (ex. Raise your hand = reiz yor jand). Sometimes there isn't a sound in > Spanish that quite matches the one in English and I have to wrk around it > (ex. the word 'sit'.... there isn't anything in Spanish that sounds like > the > 'i' in that word.... I told my class it sounds some where between 'eh' and > 'ee' and they got it). > > The thing with non-Roman alphabets is unless you speak the language, it > would be quite a task to do it that way. Then if you have people with > differing languages, it would be even worse. If all the people in your > class > know the Roman alphabet, then I have a link to a website that has books > and > workshops on a unique system to teach pronunciation with. I haven't tried > the method, but it looks really cool. Let me know if you want the address. > Hope this (any of it) helps! > > Andrea > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM, <englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov> > wrote: > > > Send EnglishLanguage mailing list submissions to > > englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > englishlanguage-owner at nifl.gov > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of EnglishLanguage digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. [EnglishLanguage 2291] computerless ESL instruction > > (Jenny Hubler) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:57:35 -0500 > > From: "Jenny Hubler" <JHubler at womenscenter.info> > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2291] computerless ESL instruction > > To: "'The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List'" > > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov> > > Message-ID: <001a01c8a937$d1da28d0$d600a8c0 at womenscenter.info> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Andrea: > > > > > > > > Could you give more details about how you teach pronunciation to > speakers > > of > > other languages? We have many Latinos, also some Koreans and a student > > from > > Sudan. > > > > > > > > Jenny > > > > The Women's Center of Tarrant County, TX > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Canter > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:58 PM > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2290] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31, > Issue > > 16 > > > > > > > > This is a neat concept, but if you're like me and teach adults in venues > > without computers there needs to be something else. Since my class is > > entirely Hispanic, I use Spanish phonics to help. For some sounds I have > > to > > go into further explanation because there is no Spanish equivalent, but > > for > > the most part it translates. This has worked SO well!! They have near > > perfect pronunciation instantly!! I'm getting ready to start a class > with > > people from all over the world now. I have no idea how to address the > > issue > > with them- any suggestions?? > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM, <englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov> > > wrote: > > > > Send EnglishLanguage mailing list submissions to > > englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > englishlanguage-owner at nifl.gov > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of EnglishLanguage digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound (Molly Elkins) > > 2. [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound (Tom Zurinskas) > > 3. [EnglishLanguage 2288] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound (Elkins, Molly (CR)) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0600 > > From: "Molly Elkins" <melkins at dclibraries.org> > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound > > To: "'The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List'" > > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov> > > Message-ID: <004f01c8a62d$8c7cafe0$be070a0a at dpld.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I think it is pretty interesting- > > > > My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on my > > pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners > > have > > complained about media that is British instead of American > pronunciation. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Molly Elkins > > Literacy Specialist > > Douglas County Libraries > > Phillip S. Miller Library > > 100 S. Wilcox Street > > Castle Rock CO 80104 > > Map > > Direct Phone: (303)688-7646 > > Alt Phone: (303) 791-READ > > Fax: (303) 688-7655 > > Email: melkins at dclibraries.org > > Web: www.DouglasCountyLibraries.org > > -----Original Message----- > > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne Greenberg > > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:00 PM > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound > > > > ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good, > or > > if > > it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine > > introduced > > me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with > Instant > > Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great idea > > for > > learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to > > have > > some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site because > > they > > need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced. > > > > The url is: http://howjsay.com/ > > > > I am curious what people on this list think about this site. > > > > Daphne > > > > Daphne Greenberg > > Associate Professor > > Educational Psych. & Special Ed. > > Georgia State University > > P.O. Box 3979 > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979 > > phone: 404-413-8337 > > fax:404-413-8043 > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu > > > > Daphne Greenberg > > Associate Director > > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy > > Georgia State University > > P.O. Box 3977 > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977 > > phone: 404-413-8337 > > fax:404-413-8043 > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > National Institute for Literacy > > Adult English Language Learners mailing list > > EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > > Email delivered to melkins at dclibraries.org > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:13:32 +0000 > > From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound > > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List > > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>, cornell Kimble <cornell9 at earthlink.net > > > > Message-ID: <BAY135-W4511FA4584E33E80584DDFD3DD0 at phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > m-w.com is a marvelous dictionary that you can click on to hear words in > > US > > accent. The only nits I pick are what I call "awe-dropping" where the > > sound > > "awe" is replaced sometimes by "ah". Click on the word "flaw" to hear > it > > correctly (note, the word "awe" is said "ah"). Another nit is that > words > > starting with "ex-" are said to be spoken as "ix-" (so example is > > ixample). > > I don't think that is the norm in USA but perhaps UK. > > > > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+ > > See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at > > authorhouse.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: melkins at dclibraries.org > > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0600 > > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant > > sound > > > > > > I think it is pretty interesting- > > > > > > My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on > my > > > pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners > > have > > > complained about media that is British instead of American > > pronunciation. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Molly Elkins > > > Literacy Specialist > > > Douglas County Libraries > > > Phillip S. Miller Library > > > 100 S. Wilcox Street > > > Castle Rock CO 80104 > > > Map > > > Direct Phone: (303)688-7646 > > > Alt Phone: (303) 791-READ > > > Fax: (303) 688-7655 > > > Email: melkins at dclibraries.org > > > Web: www.DouglasCountyLibraries.org > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov > > > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne > Greenberg > > > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:00 PM > > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov > > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound > > > > > > ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good, > > or > > if > > > it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine > > introduced > > > me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with > > Instant > > > Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great > idea > > for > > > learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to > > have > > > some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site > because > > they > > > need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced. > > > > > > The url is: http://howjsay.com/ > > > > > > I am curious what people on this list think about this site. > > > > > > Daphne > > > > > > Daphne Greenberg > > > Associate Professor > > > Educational Psych. & Special Ed. > > > Georgia State University > > > P.O. Box 3979 > > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979 > > > phone: 404-413-8337 > > > fax:404-413-8043 > > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu > > > > > > Daphne Greenberg > > > Associate Director > > > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy > > > Georgia State University > > > P.O. Box 3977 > > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977 > > > phone: 404-413-8337 > > > fax:404-413-8043 > > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > National Institute for Literacy > > > Adult English Language Learners mailing list > > > EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov > > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > > > Email delivered to melkins at dclibraries.org > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > National Institute for Literacy > > > Adult English Language Learners mailing list > > > EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov > > > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage > > > Email delivered to truespel at hotmail.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. 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