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[EnglishLanguage 2296] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 32, Issue 1

Andrea Canter lucidpandora at gmail.com
Fri May 2 14:48:04 EDT 2008


Is Pronunciation Pairs a book?

Andrea

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> 1. [EnglishLanguage 2294] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31,

> Issue 18 (Emma Bourassa)

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> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:41:56 -0700

> From: "Emma Bourassa" <ebourassa at tru.ca>

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2294] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31,

> Issue 18

> To: <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>

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> I believe it is Pronunciation Pairs that has illustrations, single word

> and short dialogue practice. For example there might be:

> sit seat

> bit beat

>

> etc. which is then worked into a conversation:

> A: Bea, have a seat.

> B: I can eat but can't sit.

> A: Sit in the seat, and eat your meat.

> B: No, I need to knit.

> sorta silly but they do work for slow practice of moving the mouth and

> tongue around.

> Pictures with mirrors so students can watch themselves works well.

> e

>

> Emma Bourassa

> English as a Second or Additional Language/ Teaching English as a Second

> Language Instructor

> ESL Department

> Thompson Rivers University

> 900 McGill Road. P.O. Box 3010

> Kamloops, B.C. V2C 5N3

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> >>>

> From: Andrea Canter <lucidpandora at gmail.com>

> To: <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>

> Date: 29/04/2008 12:03 pm

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2292] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31,

> Issue 18

>

> Jenny,

>

> Eek! That's the issue I'm coming up against soon. The way I've been doing

> it

> works with the roman alphabet (and easiest with just one native language

> in

> the group). I have this book that has Spanish translations of English

> vocabulary words. Then it has the pronunciation of the word spelled out in

> Spanish phonetics. I just borrow those phonetics for any word I come

> across:

> (ex. Raise your hand = reiz yor jand). Sometimes there isn't a sound in

> Spanish that quite matches the one in English and I have to wrk around it

> (ex. the word 'sit'.... there isn't anything in Spanish that sounds like

> the

> 'i' in that word.... I told my class it sounds some where between 'eh' and

> 'ee' and they got it).

>

> The thing with non-Roman alphabets is unless you speak the language, it

> would be quite a task to do it that way. Then if you have people with

> differing languages, it would be even worse. If all the people in your

> class

> know the Roman alphabet, then I have a link to a website that has books

> and

> workshops on a unique system to teach pronunciation with. I haven't tried

> the method, but it looks really cool. Let me know if you want the address.

> Hope this (any of it) helps!

>

> Andrea

>

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> > 1. [EnglishLanguage 2291] computerless ESL instruction

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> > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:57:35 -0500

> > From: "Jenny Hubler" <JHubler at womenscenter.info>

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2291] computerless ESL instruction

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> > Andrea:

> >

> >

> >

> > Could you give more details about how you teach pronunciation to

> speakers

> > of

> > other languages? We have many Latinos, also some Koreans and a student

> > from

> > Sudan.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jenny

> >

> > The Women's Center of Tarrant County, TX

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> > _____

> >

> > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Canter

> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:58 PM

> > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2290] Re: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 31,

> Issue

> > 16

> >

> >

> >

> > This is a neat concept, but if you're like me and teach adults in venues

> > without computers there needs to be something else. Since my class is

> > entirely Hispanic, I use Spanish phonics to help. For some sounds I have

> > to

> > go into further explanation because there is no Spanish equivalent, but

> > for

> > the most part it translates. This has worked SO well!! They have near

> > perfect pronunciation instantly!! I'm getting ready to start a class

> with

> > people from all over the world now. I have no idea how to address the

> > issue

> > with them- any suggestions??

> >

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> > 1. [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound (Molly Elkins)

> > 2. [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound (Tom Zurinskas)

> > 3. [EnglishLanguage 2288] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound (Elkins, Molly (CR))

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> > Message: 1

> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0600

> > From: "Molly Elkins" <melkins at dclibraries.org>

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound

> > To: "'The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List'"

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> > I think it is pretty interesting-

> >

> > My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on my

> > pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners

> > have

> > complained about media that is British instead of American

> pronunciation.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Molly Elkins

> > Literacy Specialist

> > Douglas County Libraries

> > Phillip S. Miller Library

> > 100 S. Wilcox Street

> > Castle Rock CO 80104

> > Map

> > Direct Phone: (303)688-7646

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> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne Greenberg

> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:00 PM

> > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound

> >

> > ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good,

> or

> > if

> > it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine

> > introduced

> > me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with

> Instant

> > Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great idea

> > for

> > learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to

> > have

> > some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site because

> > they

> > need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced.

> >

> > The url is: http://howjsay.com/

> >

> > I am curious what people on this list think about this site.

> >

> > Daphne

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Associate Professor

> > Educational Psych. & Special Ed.

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3979

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979

> > phone: 404-413-8337

> > fax:404-413-8043

> > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Associate Director

> > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3977

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977

> > phone: 404-413-8337

> > fax:404-413-8043

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> > Message: 2

> > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:13:32 +0000

> > From: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com>

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2287] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound

> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>, cornell Kimble <cornell9 at earthlink.net

> >

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> >

> >

> > m-w.com is a marvelous dictionary that you can click on to hear words in

> > US

> > accent. The only nits I pick are what I call "awe-dropping" where the

> > sound

> > "awe" is replaced sometimes by "ah". Click on the word "flaw" to hear

> it

> > correctly (note, the word "awe" is said "ah"). Another nit is that

> words

> > starting with "ex-" are said to be spoken as "ix-" (so example is

> > ixample).

> > I don't think that is the norm in USA but perhaps UK.

> >

> > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+

> > See truespel.com - and the 4 truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at

> > authorhouse.com.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: melkins at dclibraries.org

> > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0600

> > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2286] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

> > sound

> > >

> > > I think it is pretty interesting-

> > >

> > > My only concern is that it took some time to load the sound- even on

> my

> > > pretty fast computer, AND it has a British accent. Many of my learners

> > have

> > > complained about media that is British instead of American

> > pronunciation.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Molly Elkins

> > > Literacy Specialist

> > > Douglas County Libraries

> > > Phillip S. Miller Library

> > > 100 S. Wilcox Street

> > > Castle Rock CO 80104

> > > Map

> > > Direct Phone: (303)688-7646

> > > Alt Phone: (303) 791-READ

> > > Fax: (303) 688-7655

> > > Email: melkins at dclibraries.org

> > > Web: www.DouglasCountyLibraries.org

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne

> Greenberg

> > > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:00 PM

> > > To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> > > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2254] on-line dictionary with instant sound

> > >

> > > ESL is not my area of expertise, so I don't know if this site is good,

> > or

> > if

> > > it is a site that everyone already knows about. A friend of mine

> > introduced

> > > me to a site described as "An English Pronouncing Dictionary with

> > Instant

> > > Sound" I tried it out with a few words, and it seemed like a great

> idea

> > for

> > > learners struggling with pronunciation of specific words. They need to

> > have

> > > some proficiency with English spelling in order to use the site

> because

> > they

> > > need to write the word in order to hear it pronounced.

> > >

> > > The url is: http://howjsay.com/

> > >

> > > I am curious what people on this list think about this site.

> > >

> > > Daphne

> > >

> > > Daphne Greenberg

> > > Associate Professor

> > > Educational Psych. & Special Ed.

> > > Georgia State University

> > > P.O. Box 3979

> > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979

> > > phone: 404-413-8337

> > > fax:404-413-8043

> > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

> > >

> > > Daphne Greenberg

> > > Associate Director

> > > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> > > Georgia State University

> > > P.O. Box 3977

> > > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977

> > > phone: 404-413-8337

> > > fax:404-413-8043

> > > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

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> > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:26:53 -0600

> > From: "Elkins, Molly (CR)" <melkins at dclibraries.org>

> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2288] Re: on-line dictionary with instant

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