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a TOOL for my ESOL students to write their own children’s book. There’s
so many stories and folk tales within our students and this is a good avenue
for them to share their stories from their cultures of their lives. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When I do this project, I require them to
read up to 5 children’s books (I have a collection of children’s
books that I provide). They fill out a form on each book (giving a summary,
main characters, etc). They really like this project. I’ve have some
beautiful children’s books written and illustrated by my ESOL students.
This helps with reading and writing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Glenda Lynn Rose<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 03, 2008
9:54 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Adult English Language
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [EnglishLanguage 3215]
Re: I don't understand the current thinkingbehind teaching reading to adults!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have to admit I"m a little insulted by tone
of this response. I find it ironic that open-mindedness is appreciated,
but the idea of using children's books is not included in that open-minded
attitude. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I do selectively use children's books. I use
them because as an adult some of my favorite books are still children's books
and I use them when I teach English speakers other subjects as well as
language arts. As far as my students being insulted, I have never had a
student who complained. A lot of it may be in the presentation. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>The use of children's books has to be done with an
understanding of your goals and the goals of your students, of
course. Some books I present because they are part of the culture -
"I do not like them Sam I am" and "It's fun to have fun
but you have to know how" are phrases from Dr. Seuss, used outside
their original storybook context, for example. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Alexander and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad
Day</span></font></u> is one of my and my students' favorite books, because
it reminds us that bad days happen and happen regardless of where you live
("even in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>")
(and how your attitude is in the morning really affects how you see the
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Some bilingual books, like <u>The Upside Down Boy</u>
and <u>I Love Saturdays y Domingos</u> I use because my students are mainly
parents, and these books address issues that their children may be
experiencing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>David Schwarzer said that if the teacher likes to
dance, everyone dances. Maybe that's part of the key. I love
children's books. I continue to read them as an adult. I have a
large personal collection of books from which my students <em><i><font
face="Times New Roman">voluntarily</font></i></em> (ie., ASK) to
borrow. If the teacher, however, dislikes children's books, then
clearly he or she should not use them, because that dislike will be
transmitted to the students and clearly will not be an effective teaching
tool.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>In short, I respect your decision to not use
children's books and your reasons, but I also ask that you consider the
possiblity that the use of children's books is not as "insulting"
or degrading as you might think, depending on how and why they are used.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Tue, 12/2/08, Jose Perez <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><joseperez3338@gmail.com></span></i></span></b>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Jose Perez
<joseperez3338@gmail.com><br>
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3214] Re: I don't understand the current thinking
behind teaching reading to adults!<br>
To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List"
<englishlanguage@nifl.gov><br>
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:19 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ali,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank goodness for young, innovative, open-minded, "thinking outside<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the box" individuals like you. We need more future educators like you,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>so I want to thank you for your very astute observations and comments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>In my humble opinion, there is no place for children's books in an<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>adult class--whether it's an ESL class or an ABE class. It is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>insulting, degrading and humiliating for adults, males especially, to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>be handed children's books. It is a mistake many educators make. Maybe<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>it's because they don't realize the stigma and unfortunate humialition<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>these adults go through just admitting that they can't read, or how<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>hard it is to learn the (complicated) English language when your<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>native language is, say, Spanish. So I applaud you for not stooping to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>giving your adult students children's books.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I know I've said this before, but I am most likely one of their<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>biggest fans. Have you tried the Junkyard Dan series by Nox Press?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>These are books written on a first-grade reading level, but are for<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>adults and are not the typical condescending, dated, boring books that<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>we usually give these students. They are crime dramas. I use these<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>books with great success, and my students can't get enough of them. I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>think that as a young, innovative educator, who seems to have a full<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>understanding on why our current ways are, on a whole, not effective<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and not working very well for our adult students, if you visit the Nox<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Press website, you will see what I am talking about. Your students<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>will thank you. But don't take my word for it. Check 'em out yourself!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Good luck in your future teaching carreer, and may you make many great<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>changes in your lifetime.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jose Perez<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Ali Hesami <hesamiar@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> That's a great point, and exactly what I'm talking about. If we as<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>educators<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> keep extrapolating on teaching methods for children because there are not<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> many adult-specific methods, how can we ever hope to develop an<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> adult-specific method? I think we can agree that adults of varying ages do<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> not learn as children do, and have drastically different literacy needs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Bonnie Odiorne<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><bonniesophia@sbcglobal.net><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I don't know a lot about adult reading acquisition theories, but I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>do know<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> that many researchers take what works for children and extrapolate,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>since<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> little work has been done with adults. The most important issue would<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> content, as folks have mentioned, and how the brain works, added to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> adult's experience (possible trauma from illiteracy) and passive<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>oral<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> vocabulary. I've been taught a combination of choosing key words<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to remember<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> initial letters and word patterns to help with sound/letter<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>correspondence;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> language experience stories that the learner would dictate and could<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>then<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> "read" relatively quickly, and a quick development of sight<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>word vocabulary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Also workplace or other realia that the learner needs to function. In<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> relation to using children's books or techniques (the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wilson</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>method comes to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> mind) I'd do it only if reading to children was one of the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>adult's goals;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> otherwise learners can make their own picture books with doodles and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> accompanying text limited to their level and interest. I do have<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>direct<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> experience with taking a Methods and Materials ESL class whose<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>professor's<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> only knowledge of adult learners was of graduate assistants in her<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> University, though she claimed adult learning as her specialty;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>otherwise<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> her materials came right out of chldren's contexts and K-12<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>methodology; she<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> didn't appreciate my more "practical" methods and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>materials that didn't have<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> communicative language games....<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Bonnie Odiorne, <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Post</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Writing</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType>, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Waterbury</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CT</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Ali Hesami <hesamiar@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> From: Ali Hesami <hesamiar@gmail.com><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3184] I don't understand the current<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>thinking<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> behind teaching reading to adults!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> To: englishlanguage@nifl.gov<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 12:29 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Hello all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> My name is Ali Hesami, and I am currently a graduate student in the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>adult<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> literacy program at <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Virginia</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Commonwealth</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Richmond</st1:place></st1:City>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Virginia</span></font></st1:place></st1:State>.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I've been attending a class called "Teaching Reading to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Adults" as part of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> my required curriculum, and I have been wondering about the current<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>methods<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> used to teach reading to adults. It seems to me that the teacher teach<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> adults just as they would teach children, often even using research<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> writing on teaching reading to children as guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> While I understand the usefulness of phonics, phonetics, etc. by<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> themselves, I firmly believe that an adult can better benefit from<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>learning<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> to read by simply reading in a classroom environment, guided by<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>teachers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> tutors, etc. An adult in his or her 40s or even 50s simply should not<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>have<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> to sit through long sessions of syllable by syllable instruction if<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>all they<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> desire id to be better able to communicate with others and better<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>express<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> their opinions about the world surrounding them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I speak from experience here. I began learning English as a 14 year<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>old in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> an international school in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Tanzania</st1:place></st1:country-region>. I placed into the 9th grade to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>start;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> no one ever even approached phonics, phonemes, etc. I read and<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>listened, all<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> the while guided by teachers who helped me with the material at hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> became conversational in about three months or so, while I worked on<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>my<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> writing, also with guidance from my teachers. Conversely, while in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>school in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> my native <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Tehran</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Iran</st1:country-region></st1:place>, I was taught English in a similar manner as<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>here,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> and I spoke a grand total of three phrases when I left <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> for<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Tanzania</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region>:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Hello, Fine thank you, and Beg your pardon? I'm not even joking<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>here!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> I admit as a 14 year old I had an advantage over adults here, but I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>can't<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> help but wonder if what worked for me would help adults much more than<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> playing word games and reading children's books.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Let's have them read material they can identify with in some way,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and keep<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> them reading, while slowly working on their writing skill alongside.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Let me know any thoughts, ideas, criticisms, etc. It has been eating<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>away<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> at me for a few months now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Ali Hesami<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> hesamiar@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> ----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> National Institute for Literacy<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Adult English Language Learners mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> EnglishLanguage@nifl.gov<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Email delivered to bonniesophia@sbcglobal.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> ----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> National Institute for Literacy<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Adult English Language Learners mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> EnglishLanguage@nifl.gov<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Email delivered to hesamiar@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> National Institute for Literacy<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Adult English Language Learners mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> EnglishLanguage@nifl.gov<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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