[FamilyLiteracy 1125] Re: Family literacy findingsreleasedtodayshowone grade level gain for every 10-13 hoursof instructionSusan McShane smcshane at famlit.orgWed Jun 18 13:02:08 EDT 2008
Hi Betsy, I agree that the results were astonishing. We were surprised, too. I also have experience in working with adult reading students and I know this is unusual. My first response is to remind you that these are averages, so no one is saying that such results should be expected of every individual. The students who participated were those who agreed to be part of the project. Although I'm sure that other students may have participated in some of the instruction, we have the assessment data only for those who chose to participate. They were an extremely varied group; it was not necessarily those who had serious reading difficulties/disabilities. We had a wide range of readers, with the average around 5th grade (as measured by TABE grade-equivalent scores). The rest of the answer lies in the training and other support activities and materials we (the project staff) provided and the very real changes teachers made. The teachers chose to participate in this project. It was not imposed upon them. They received intensive training on research-proven instruction, and they had very specific diagnostic information on many of the students. Even those who did not need the vocabulary and decoding tests did read short passages aloud to the teacher and shared a lot of information in a detailed interview. These teachers knew much more about individuals' reading history, strengths, and needs than the typical adult education teacher or tutor would have. In fact, in most cases the teachers would never have heard the learners read aloud, and there is obviously much one can learn from hearing aloud reading, even without the other test results. The teachers were, for the most part, in regular ABE-type settings (a couple in family literacy programs), which means most of them weren't doing any explicit reading instruction. What they began doing in the classroom during this project represented a real change in practice. Some of our results may be attributed to this important shift to explicit reading instruction. For example, several of the teachers said they had learned not to assume so much about adults' understanding of the terms used in their classroom texts. These teachers learned they should directly teach vocabulary. And they had both commercial materials and project-developed materials to support this kind of instruction. I know it's amazing! I hope this helps to explain it. Susan Susan McShane National Center for Family Literacy 502-584-1133, Ext. 175 ________________________________ From: familyliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:familyliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Betsy Rubin - Literacy Works Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:56 PM To: The Family Literacy Discussion List Subject: [FamilyLiteracy 1123] Re: Family literacy findingsreleasedtodayshowone grade level gain for every 10-13 hoursof instruction Hello, I have to say that I am flabbergasted at these results and wonder if I am completely misunderstanding them! I have taught ABE and worked with many ABE programs and - with very rare individual exceptions - I have never seen such rapid gains among adult literacy learners. Let's take an ABE program that offers 2-hour class sessions 5 days a week--in other words, a program in which a student can attend 10 hours per week of reading instruction. In such a program, I can't imagine an adult who "TABES" at, say, 3.0 rising to a 4.0 after a single week of class! Or... to extend it... rising to a 12.0 reading level after just a couple of months in the program. It just doesn't happen. Perhaps I am embarrassing myself by misunderstanding what you are reporting. However, I am sure that I represent other confused persons! Can you clarify further? Thanks much! Betsy Rubin Chicago IL ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Price <mailto:gprice at famlit.org> To: The Family Literacy Discussion List <mailto:familyliteracy at nifl.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: [FamilyLiteracy 1122] Re: Family literacy findingsreleasedtodayshow one grade level gain for every 10-13 hoursof instruction The following message is posted on behalf of Laura Westberg Dr. Sticht: I am happy to clarify our findings in regard to the questions you have raised. The mean grade equivalent reported in the table is the calculation of change in TABE score from pretest to post test. We determined a reasonable benchmark for post testing on the TABE and asked teachers to test students after approximately 20 hours of reading instruction. However, in reality, this is not what always occurred. In fact, reading instructional hours for adult students ranged from 1 to 74 hours as reported by the teachers and 49% of the students had less than 20 hours of reading instruction. Therefore, to better understand the types of gains that students were making in relation to the amount of reading instruction they received, we calculated a gain per instructional hour based on the total reading instructional hours reported by the teachers for the students. Year 1 students had an average gain per instructional hour of .10 and Year 2 students had an average gain of .08. Thus, in year 1 for every one hour of reading instruction, they gained an average of .10 grade levels and in year 2 for every one hour of reading instruction they gained an average of .08 grade levels. This translates into an average of 10-12.5 hours of reading instruction to raise a student's score on the TABE by one grade level. Please let me know if any further clarification would be helpful. Laura Westberg Director, Research/Special Projects National Center for Family Literacy 325 West Main Street, Suite 300 Louisville, KY 40202-4237 Phone: 502-584-1133 x172 Fax: 502-584-0172 Email: lwestberg at famlit.org Web: http://www.famlit.org ________________________________ From: familyliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of tsticht at znet.com Sent: Sun 6/15/2008 10:53 AM To: familyliteracy at nifl.gov Subject: [FamilyLiteracy 1120] Re: Family literacy findings releasedtodayshow one grade level gain for every 10-13 hours of instruction combined, for the 82 students the pre-test score was 4.96 and the post-test score was 5.89 for a gain of 1.03 years. Where I get puzzled is when the report states, Quote:" For adult learners in Year 1 these results translate to an average of one grade-level gain for every 10 hours of reading instruction. For Year 2 students it is an average of one grade-level gain for every 12.5 hours of reading instruction." End Quote If, as stated in the report, pre-and post-tests were separated by 20 hours of reading instruction how was gain in 10 hours or 12.5 hours of instruction determined? And how does the phrase "for every" enter in if only one set of pre- and post-test scores were obtained for each student, presumably after 20 hours of reading instruction? Help please!! Tom Sticht ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Family Literacy mailing list FamilyLiteracy at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/familyliteracy Email delivered to gprice at famlit.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/familyliteracy/attachments/20080618/5b90677b/attachment.html
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