We have a similar arrangement with our local community college.  We do
count them for the time they are with us and we do use or state adult
education approved assessments. This has helped so many lower level
students be able to truly benefit from college that it should have been
done years ago. 

My personal belief is "I count 'em--you count 'em--we all count 'em so
we can win the literacy attainment race!"


-----Original Message-----
From: focusonbasics-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:focusonbasics-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Barbara Arguedas
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:05 AM
To: The Focus on Basics Discussion List
Subject: [FocusOnBasics 648] Re: GED to Postsecondary Education
Discussion--Greetings!

I am not sure if this would be considered a "transition" model, but at
our college ABE may provide supplemental instruction to students already
enrolled in credit classes.  For example, students enrolled for college
credit classes may also be enrolled in ABE.  These students test below
the NRS level 6 and therefore are eligible for ABE.  I would like to
know if other ABE programs do this and, more importantly, whether you
count these students in your ABE reports as ABE students (only for the
time that ABE serves the student and also complying with state
assessment policies). 
Thank you.

Barbara Arguedas
ABE Director
Santa Fe Community College
Santa Fe, NM 

-----Original Message-----
From: focusonbasics-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:focusonbasics-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Cynthia Zafft
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:59 AM
To: focusonbasics at nifl.gov
Subject: [FocusOnBasics 646] GED to Postsecondary Education Discussion
--Greetings!

Dear FOB Listers:

Greetings from snowy Boston!  I direct the National College Transition
Network (NCTN), which is located at World Education.  For me, the work
of John Tyler and his colleagues has been extremely powerful and helpful
in telling us why students need to move beyond the GED to postsecondary
education.

The National College Transition Network is a relatively new
organization.  We began in 2003 and initially focused on promising
practices learned from 25 adult education transition programs
participating in a regional project, the New England ABE-to-College
Transition Project.  Now, we bring together the work of practitioners,
administrators, policy-makers and researchers from around the country,
all are people interested in adult transition.  There's a lot more to be
said but, since a picture is worth a thousand words, you might prefer
touring our websites:
http://www.collegetransition.org
http://www.collegeforadults.org

Back to John's work.  In the FOB article, "Is the GED an Effective Route
to Postsecondary Education?" you mention that GED holders, when they do
go on to college, only accumulate 7.3 credits within three years
compared to 32.8 credits for all high school grads.  Does your research
show which courses students take or at what level they begin when they
enter college?





Cynthia Zafft, Director
National College Transition Network (NCTN)
World Education, Inc.
44 Farnsworth Street
Boston, MA 02210
(617) 482-9485
www.collegetransition.org
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