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From: Michael Tate 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:47 AM
To: 'nifl-ld at literacy.nifl.gov'
Subject: FW: [LearningDisabilities]
Educationalresourcesforsomeoneinterested in a profession working
withadults with L.D.

 

 

In response to Cathy Jenner and June Crawford, long post
Subject: RE: [LearningDisabilities]
Educationalresourcesforsomeoneinterested in a profession working
withadults with L.D.

Our approach in the  Learning Disabilities Quality Initiative  is a work
in progress, but I think our LD Specialists do provide high-quality
reports, and more importantly, they have a great deal of expertise in
translating the report findings into accommodations. 

 Rather than producing a report that will be sent back to program staff
that the assessor may never meet, our LD Specialists are working
side-by-side with the student and the teacher at their own campus or on
campuses that are nearby where they can walk right into the classroom
and give face-to-face guidance.  

 I think they get this kind of expertise, in part, because we require
our LD Specialists to be very successful, experienced adult education
teachers who have "fire in their bellies" about learning disabilities.

Once the LD Specialists have satisfactorily completed the training on
the WAIS and Woodcock Johnson, and once have had two completed work-ups
that meet standard as determined by the Test Specialist, they move to a
third training in which they learn our state's eligibility protocol, how
to determine appropriate accommodations based on the testing, how to
write up the test results, how to talk about the test results with the
student and with teachers, how to get and use feedback, etc.  

We are big believers here that the heavy lifting doesn't start until the
accommodation is put into place.  The LD Specialists will work with
points-of-contact who have been trained to introduce accommodations and
work with the student and the teacher until the use of the accommodation
is second-nature. The points-of-contact pay close attention to both
teacher and student as they acquire facility with the accommodation.
The LD Specialist will intervene if asked by the point-of-contact to
fine-tune the use of the accommodation or to find a substitute
accommodation.   

What stands behind all of this, is a college and community organization
culture that believes that student success is its job.   LDQI programs
know the student needs to get what s/he needs to be successful when s/he
needs it, not after some cumbersome, time-consuming eligibility process.
This change in philosophy and approach is indispensable to providing
essential services, not special services.   

What LDQI sites think is the future is universal design for learning,
not expanding our capacity to do the discrepancy model which sadly
disenfranchises many of our students.

All of the LDQI sites start immediately making sure that students are
learning ready.  We do quick vision screens and make referrals.  We use
a quick LD screen, so we can identify students who we need to interview
regarding their educational, health, family, etc backgrounds looking for
anything that might help us understand their strengths and weaknesses,
and  anything that might indicate persistent learning difficulties.
That information is turned into action plans that the points-of-contact
talk with students and teachers about.  

We tend to think that the majority of the native-borne students have
learning difficulties or they wouldn't be in our adult education
classes.  We make strategies, modifications, adjustments available to
those who need them, to anyone, not just those who can document a
disability.  And, right away. 

Those who can document a disability get this, and whatever accommodation
is indicated.

I'm sorry this is so long, but LDQI is a fairly complex and nuanced
model.  I or other people in our project would be happy to share more
about the project.  Thanks for the interest.  Michael Tate

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:55 PM

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Thanks, Cathy.  I appreciate any information you can provide.

June

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:49 PM

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resourcesforsomeoneinterested in a profession working with adults with

L.D.

 

I am not directly involved with the project which does the training so I

hesitate to give details. I am hoping that someone from LDQI is reading

this and can respond..?  If no one does, I'll contact the director and

get some details about the training and other educational or background

requirements.

Cathy Jenner

Disabilities Services Development Project Coordinator

Renton Technical College

(425) 235-2352 x5639

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June

Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:34 AM

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Subject: Re: [LearningDisabilities] Educational resources

forsomeoneinterested in a profession working with adults with L.D.

Cathy,

What sort of training do the counselors get that help them make

recommendations for instruction or work, or appropriate technology?

This

would be helpful information for us as most states do not recognize LD

specialists unless they have the doctorate and even then many do not

have

any education background so they don't always provide good information.

I've seen too many lousy reports in my lifetime and am always curious

about

how you get people trained appropriately for this.

June Crawford

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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:39 PM

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someoneinterested in a profession working with adults with L.D.

 

In Washington State, we have the Learning Disabilities Quality

Initiative which has offered training on LD and Woodcock Johnson and

WAIS, etc to allow Master degree counselors to be considered "LD

Specialists".  They can then make recommendations for GED

accommodations.  We also have arrangements with local psychologists to

interpret the report results and give formal diagnosis.  This results in

a much quicker, much less expensive pathway for diagnosing LD for our

college students.  This is in place in several community and technical

colleges in Washington State.  We are hoping that eventually Washington

State can follow California and have a formal "LD Counselor" position

that can provide diagnostic reports and accommodations.

Cathy Jenner

Disabilities Services Development Project Coordinator

Renton Technical College

(425) 235-2352 x5639

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Barbara

Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:08 AM

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Dear Dee Dee,

        I am a professor of Sp. Education at Marshall University, which

is located in Huntington, WV.  We have a support program for college

students and medical students who have LD and/or ADHD.  We help them

study for exams, help with assignments, provide remedial help in

improving reading and written language skills, as well as math.  All of

our teaching is one-to-one.  We have 200 undergraduate students in the

program from all over the country.  www.marshall.edu/help
<http://www.marshall.edu/help> 

        We also have a remedial program (Medical HELP) for medical

students and physicians who read too slowly, have poor comprehension

skills, and lack skill in taking multiple choice tests.

www.marshall.edu/medicalhelp <http://www.marshall.edu/medicalhelp> 

  

        We also have a Master's and Ed.D. program in Learning

Disabilities.  I will be glad to speak with anyone who is interested in

learning more about these programs.

Barbara Guyer

Dr. Barbara P. Guyer

Marshall University

Professor of Special Education

One John Marshall Drive

Huntington, WV 25755

(304) 696-6317   (304) 696-2851

guyerb at marshall.edu <mailto:guyerb at marshall.edu> 

 

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Subject: [LearningDisabilities] Educational resources for someone

interested in a profession working with adults with L.D.

I have a wonderful instructor that teaches our GED classes.  He  also 

works with our students with disabilities. He approached me today asking

how I got involved with working with disabilities, especially with 

adults with L.D.  He asked where or who offers degrees, 

certificates..........in th field of learning disabilities and what 

types of professions are out there related to  LD ....counseling, 

psychology....... 

I shared with him what I know, which is not much.  I was hoping others 

could offer some input here. 

He does a tremendous job here and it was exciting to have him  inquire 

and show such an interest in working with individuals with learning 

disabilities.

 Thanks

 

-- 

Dee Dee Bossart,MS

Program Development Officer

Northern Nevada Literacy Council

775-356-1007

775-356-1009 Fax

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