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[LearningDisabilities 1537] Re: Transition- retention rate incollege for students with LD
Will Fagan
wfagan at mun.caSat Nov 10 12:53:18 EST 2007
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Hi:
I am speaking of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
This may be a Canadian Federal (national) law but I am not sure of that.
Bill
On 10-Nov-07, at 9:04 AM, Katherine G wrote:
> "It is the law here that LD students must be accommodated so there
> are
> grounds for appeal if a student feels he/she is not being
> accommodated."
>
> Are you referring to the A.D.A.?
>
> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Will Fagan
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:34 PM
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> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1526] Re: Transition- retention rate
> incollege for students with LD
>
>
> A few points.
> It is unfortunate when LD or any students encounter "elitist"
> professors.
> It is the law here that LD students must be accommodated so there are
> grounds for appeal if a student feels he/she is not being
> accommodated.
>
> One point that should not be ignored is that LD students often have
> parents
> who are skilled and dedicated advocates and tend to provide more
> support
> for their children in coping with "life skills" than do parents of
> non-LD students.
> Bill
>
>
>
> On 9-Nov-07, at 3:41 PM, Arlyn Roffman wrote:
>
>> Bill Fagan wrote - ... While I don't have statistics, it seems
>> that if LD
>> students reach university they do well. The expectation is that
>> they are as
>> intelligent as the next student, they only need an accommodation
>> to help
>> them demonstrate the knowledge they have.
>>
>> The bottleneck seems to be in the school system, when strategies,
>> programs,
>> plans, are not available to unlock the potential students have and
>> they fall
>> by the wayside and do not make it to university.
>>
>>
>> Bill, I fully agree that school systems aren't doing enough to
>> promote
>> continuation on to postsecondary learning for students with LD. I
>> agree that
>> schools should be doing more to help students learn to problem-
>> solve and
>> strategize, and certainly to be self-aware. But I think our biggest
>> failing
>> is low expectations. Too many students fail to even consider
>> continuing on
>> because no one is telling them that it's a possibility. Some are
>> capable of
>> attending highly competitive colleges; others need to find settings
>> with
>> less rigorous academic demands. But even students who don't look like
>> traditional "college material" have options to continue. According
>> to Dr.
>> Loring Brinckerhoff, who wrote the postsecondary chapter in my
>> book, the
>> majority of students with learning disabilities who enroll in post-
>> secondary
>> education start by spending a year or two at their local community
>> college,
>> where there is generally an open admissions policy, meaning a high
>> school
>> diploma or a GED is all that is necessary for admission. There are
>> many
>> financial and academic advantages of the community college option,
>> but
>> there is a potential psychological benefit as well, since, as a
>> non-residential institution where all students are commuters,
>> students are
>> able to “try out” the college experience close to home, near family
>> and
>> friends.
>>
>> The fact is, in the US (you mention your province, so I'm guessing
>> you're
>> from Canada), only 20% of students with LD enroll in college, and
>> MANY of
>> those (nearly half) never graduate. So, once they do matriculate,
>> we would
>> do well to make sure students with LD have access to more than just
>> classroom accommodations. Coming back to my comments yesterday about
>> community living skills, we should see to it that there's support
>> for their
>> adjustment to the many changes that come with college life. We need
>> to help
>> them adjust to larger classes, to less structured time, to having
>> to balance
>> academics with social demands, to less frequent feedback from
>> instructors,
>> to having to manage their finances independently, to dealing with
>> roommates,
>> and on and on. Time management alone is a HUGE challenge for
>> students on
>> college campuses. So, in high school and in postsecondary settings,
>> we need
>> to help students prepare for the broader demands of the college
>> experience.
>> As I keep saying over and over again here, LD is far more than just
>> about
>> reading and writing!
>> Arlyn
>>
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