I feel compelled to respond to the phrase "If you
consider deafness the ultimate form of dyslexia" in
the post below. I began my career in deaf education.

Deafness prevents a person from getting auditory
input. It's not about information processing. It's an
inability to sense certain sources of information
(sound). 

Dyslexia (a broad term by the way) is about
information processing. People with dyslexia are
sensing sounds and visuals, but something happens on
the way in and/or the way out. 

So actually deafness and dyslexia are sort of
opposites. 

Bruce Carmel
Turning Point


--- "Muro, Andres" <amuro5 at epcc.edu> wrote:


> Hey Robin:

>  

> Thanks for the reference. However, my post stated

> that I wanted to see an article published in a

> respected journal that showed that teaching phonics

> was useful to dyslexics. The website is for a lab

> that starts with the premise that phonetic decoding

> is necessary for proper reading. and then lists

> statements and some suggest that. However, the

> website does not site a single article in a

> respected journal, nor does it provide an abstract

> to any article that shows that phonics is a good

> tool. 

>  

> In fact, the claim that phonic decoding is necessary

> for proper reading is totally absurd if you consider

> that there are many fluent readers who are deaf from

> birth. If you consider deafness the ultimate form of

> dyslexia, you will agree that it is al least

> possible to learn to read properly without the aids

> of phonics. 

>  

> Now, when I say I want to see an article in a

> respected journal, I mean a respected journal that

> has a 20% to 30% acceptance rate that is considered

> a leading journal in the field, such as reading

> research quarterly, the journal of ABE, Harvard Ed

> Review, TESOL Quarterly, etc. The article should

> show that phonics is the way to teach dyslexics

> proper reading. 

> If this was the case, such article should be easy to

> find, and the phonics pushers in these lists should

> be able to readily refer to them, since, I am sure,

> they must have read them. 

>  

> In lieu of an article, I will accept a reference

> from a text in physiology, speech pathology, that is

> considered a leading text in the field and is

> regularly used in graduate education programs.

> Truespell, Hooked on phonics and the one tha annita

> landoll push are not considered true research

> pieces.

>  

> Andres

>  

>  

>  

> From: learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov on

> behalf of robinschwarz1 at aol.com

> Sent: Sat 2/16/2008 10:12 AM

> To: learningdisabilities at nifl.gov

> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1724] Re: Research

> Validated ReadingInstruction- Hooked on Phonics?

> 

> 

> Andres-- Below is the address of a site --from

> Haskins Laboratories at Yale--with a very complete

> research inventory of all the skills needed for good

> reading.  The focus of the projects at Haskins has

> been on preventing reading difficulty-- including

> heading off the effects of dyslexia---by using the

> most scientifically sound approaches to reading

> instruction.  You will see that knowledge of the

> alphabetic principle, automaticity in connecting

> sound to symbol and a number of other skills that

> are generally lumped under the rubric of "phonics" 

> are critical to efficient and effective reading.  

> It is these skills that dyslexics have difficulty

> developing, but must have to be effective readers.  

> 

> 

> http://www.sedl.org/reading/framework/research.html

> 

> 

> Robin Lovrien Schwarz

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Muro, Andres <amuro5 at epcc.edu>

> To: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List

> <learningdisabilities at nifl.gov>;

> l.cuttler at comcast.net

> Cc: learningdisabilities at nifl.gov

> Sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 9:19 am

> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1722] Re: Research

> Validated ReadingInstruction- Hooked on Phonics?

> 

> 

> There ain't one single piece of scientific evidence

> that says that phonics helps dyslexics. In fact

> scientific research suggests otherwise. If anyone

> can show me one single research article published in

> a respected journal that validates the use of

> phonics to teach dyslexics, I will shave my head. 

>  

> Andres

> 

> ________________________________

> 

> From: learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov on

> behalf of Anita Landoll

> Sent: Sat 2/16/2008 8:04 AM

> To: l.cuttler at comcast.net

> Cc: learningdisabilities at nifl.gov

> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1720] Re: Research

> Validated ReadingInstruction- Hooked on Phonics?

> 

> 

> You can help your students improve their reading

> skills as they are able to make sense of the English

> language. You can teach by using simple sound

> spellings for any words your students need to be

> able to read. That way they learn to decode the

> various vowel and consonant sounds in our language.

> My sped students enjoy learning how to find the

> sound spelling, as well as how to get from the sound

> spelling to the written spelling. Applied phonics.

> 

> Anita learntoreadnow

> 

> Lucille Cuttler wrote:

> >  Have

> > you considered consulting with the International

> Dyslexia Association for

> > guidance in choosing materials and possibly a

> well-trained teacher?  

> > There are many programs available beyond HOP to

> help reinforce the teaching of a

> > well prepared teacher.   Lucille Cuttler

> >   -----Original Message----- From:

> >   learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov

> >   [mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov]

> On Behalf Of Orleck,

> >   Ralph Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:18 AM

> To: The

> >   Learning Disabilities Discussion List Subject:

> [LearningDisabilities

> >   1715] Research Validated Reading Instruction-

> Hooked on

> >   Phonics?

> >   The Special Education Teachers

> >   within the Rhode Island Department of

> Corrections have been using a series of

> >   research validated materials and techniques to

> work to enhance the reading

> >   achievement of students with special needs. 

> >    

> >   I have been approached by staff

> >   requesting we add the "Hooked on Phonics"

> program to our

> >   inventory.

> >    

> >   Is there research out there to

> >   support the utilization of the "Hooked on

> Phonics" program as an appropriate

> >   instructional program to enhance reading skills

> for students with special

> >   needs?  Do any of you use it?  What are the

> >   results?

> >    

> >   Thank you.

> >   Ralph Orleck

> >   Special Education Director /

> >   Principal

> >   Rhode Island Department of

> >   Corrections

> >   Education Unit

> >   15 Fleming Road ,

> >     Bernadette

> >   Building

> >   Cranston ,

> >   RI 02920

> >   Office: (401)

> >   462-2507

> >   Direct: (401)

> >   462-1415

> >   Fax: (401)

> >   462-2509

> >   E-Mail:

> >   Ralph.Orleck at doc.ri.gov

> >    

> 

> 

> 

>      

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