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[LearningDisabilities 4263] Re: Horse vs Cart

HKerr at aol.com

HKerr at aol.com
Thu Nov 5 10:16:06 EST 2009




In a message dated 04/11/2009 22:57:17 GMT Standard Time, bhayenga at rrps.net
writes:

People with acquired head injuries in the same brain areas implicated in
the neuro-anatomy and brain scan studies, suddenly have problems similar to
many dyslexics. Animals with induced brain injuries in those same areas
have similar sensory processing deficits. Genetic mutation studies implicate
the same areas. Brain scans show abnormalities in the function of those
areas. Cognitive processes known to be important in reading are tied to those
same areas. A simple conclusion is that something about differences in those
areas is likely causal in problems learning to read.


This is the difference between acquired dyslexia and developmental
dyslexia. I agree that, in general, linguistic stuff is done in the same brain
areas, roughly speaking, in most people (but not all people). All I would
question is how much that means in reality, the brain being so very plastic and
so much being general - available to learn stuff of any kind.

If a brain learns a skill (knitting, reading, language, whatever) and there
is traumatic damage to that part of the brain which has done the learning
then the skill will be correspondingly damaged or even lost altogether, at
least temporarily. So acquired dyslexia, although horrible (and actually
very rare, at least in pure form) is not scientifically controversial. I
accept it, for example, without scientific quibble. The 'dyslexia' we all talk
about is developmental dyslexia where the unavoidable implication is
either that there is a bit of brain, or a set of connections, or something,
genetically determined from the start, so innate, and pre-ordained to do
literacy and defective in some people or that there is some underlying skill
which is also thus innate and defective in some people. The first is
biologically impossible and the second (some general ability) has not yet been
reliably and consistently shown to be present in 'dyslexics'. I know the present
fashion (not quite consensus) is for defective phonological awareness but
a) I have, as you know, reservations as to what the research is actually
telling us and b) I am old enough to have seen other fashions come and go!

I have not kept up with all the recent research on thalamic or cortical
indications, as there has been such a plethora of research citing
'abnormalities' (if that's what they really are) in almost every part of the brain
anyone cares to look, and so much of it seems to me to be wildly
over-interpreted and credulous. I know apparent differences have been found in white
matter density, composition or even, allegedly, connectivity, but I have not
read any which convinced me we were looking at anything real. Maybe I am
contrary, but I am also sure, in compensation perhaps, that there is a deal of
credulous interpretation and much over-enthusiatic adoption and simplistic
promotion of what the original neuroscientist researchers would, rather
boringly I agree, have been far more cautious about. But this is proper, if
dull, in my view.

One reference disputing the anomalous lateralisation foundation to
Galaburda's work is:

Bryden, M.P., McManus, I.C. & Bulman-Fleming, B. (1994) Evaluating the
empirical support for the Geschwind-Behan-Galaburda model of cerebral
lateralisation. Brain & Cognition. 26. 103-167.

Pumfrey & Reason's 1991 book (specific learning difficulties (dyslexia):
challenges & responses) also debates the idea that histological examination
of the brain is able to tell us much about its behaviours.

There are more in the discussion in my chapter eight.

I think we will have to disagree about the validity of earlier, improperly
defined, 'dyslexics'! To me it is clear, if the sample of 'dyslexics'
studied was not reliable, then the conclusions we can reach about them are
equally unreliable. Many 'facts' regarded as 'established' about 'dyslexics'
were actually about people who may well not have been 'dyslexic' as the
discrepancy criterion for diagnosis has been shown not reliably to indicate
'dyslexia', or anything neurological, at all. Studies made on subjects
unreliably selected are unreliable, and so, therefore, are their findings and their
conclusions. And I absolutely believe research should be interpreted
cautiously! (As, indeed, I believe extreme caution in respect of the climate
would be very desirable, but unlikely!) If there was a neurological basis to a
disability called dyslexia (In which, as you know, I do not believe) I do
not think it would elude discovery very easily, in view of the effort put
into the search. The fact that we remain about as far as ever from
elucidation is a form of evidence in itself, I think.

I am pleased we have been able to disagree with grace! Thank you for you
thoughts.


Hugo


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