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Marie--<div><br></div><div>What do you use for testing?  Which assessments?</div><div><br></div><div>Andrea :)</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:41 PM, Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I thought the most recent stats suggested up to 80% of all adult learners have a learning disability.  </div> <div> </div> <div>--</div><p align="left">Adults with LD may comprise as many as 80 percent of the students in adult basic education programs (Ross 1987), but a smaller percentage of students in other adult education settings, such as corporate training programs and continuing education, are estimated to have LD (Ross-Gordon 1989). </p> <div>--</div> <div><a href="http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9215/adults.htm">http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9215/adults.htm</a><br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Marie Doerner <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mdoerner@sdccd.edu">mdoerner@sdccd.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">This is a great question. If you find some hard numbers, please share with<br>the listserv.<br><br>It seems that most programs have no way of finding out how many students have<br> disabilities. We have our Disability Support Programs and Services department<br>here in San Diego. We can test students for learning disabilities and help<br>them in the classroom. I am happy if we can verify 3-4% of students. Many,<br> however, want to avoid labels or a just too transient to stick around for<br>testing.<br><br>Those students who do go through the testing have a very good persistence and<br>graduation rate.<br><br>Marie Doerner<br>DSPS Program Chair<br> San DIego Continuing Education<br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov</a> on behalf of<br><a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-request@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-request@nifl.gov</a><br> Sent: Fri 11/7/2008 9:00 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a><br>Subject: LearningDisabilities Digest, Vol 38, Issue 7<br><br><br><br>Send LearningDisabilities mailing list submissions to<br>        <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>       <a href="http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities" target="_blank">http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities</a><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>       <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-request@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-request@nifl.gov</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br>        <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-owner@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-owner@nifl.gov</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of LearningDisabilities digest..."<br> <br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>  1. [LearningDisabilities 2540] Re: Adult LD Stats (Jenner, Cathy)<br>  2. [LearningDisabilities 2541]  Ld Info (Lee Jewett)<br>  3. [LearningDisabilities 2542] Re: Adult LD Stats (Mary Kelly)<br>   4. [LearningDisabilities 2542] Re: Adult LD Stats (Stephen L Noble)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:02:07 -0800<br>From: "Jenner, Cathy" &lt;<a href="mailto:cjenner@rtc.edu">cjenner@rtc.edu</a>><br> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 2540] Re: Adult LD Stats<br>To: "The Learning Disabilities Discussion List"<br>       &lt;<a href="mailto:learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a>><br>Message-ID:<br>        &lt;<a href="mailto:8B5B75C99556F540BF231711D526A92C0649DB11@KAURI.rtc.ctc.edu">8B5B75C99556F540BF231711D526A92C0649DB11@KAURI.rtc.ctc.edu</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi Lee!  You probably already have this one but just in case:  Understanding<br> the Complexities of Offender?s Special Learning Needs at NCSALL<br><a href="http://www.ncsall.net/?id=829" target="_blank">http://www.ncsall.net/?id=829</a>.<br><br><br><br>Cathy Jenner, Project Coordinator<br>Universal Design for Learning Project<br> Instructional Improvement<br>Renton Technical College<br>(425) 235-2352 x5639<br><a href="mailto:cjenner@rtc.edu">cjenner@rtc.edu</a><br><a href="http://www.rtc.edu/AboutUs/DSDPGrant/" target="_blank">http://www.rtc.edu/AboutUs/DSDPGrant/</a><br> Project Website:  <a href="http://webs.rtc.edu/ii/dsdp.html" target="_blank">http://webs.rtc.edu/ii/dsdp.html</a><br><br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov</a><br> [mailto:<a href="mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities-bounces@nifl.gov</a>] On Behalf Of Lee Jewett<br>Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a><br> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 2536] Adult LD Stats<br><br><br><br><br><br>Hello All,<br><br>I am working on a project through our LD System Project (LDSI) here in<br>Washington State and wondering if you can help direct me to some stats<br> regarding LD.<br><br>I have been looking for information about the suspected number of<br>incarcerated individuals with learning disabilities and the number of adults<br>in adult education with learning disabilities. I have seen some stats quoted<br> however they are not cited.  I have the Bridges to Practice fact sheet but<br>these particular numbers are not cited.<br><br>I?m wondering if anyone can help me find prevalence of ld in the incarcerated<br>and ABE population.<br> <br>Thank you,<br><br><br><br><br><br>Lee Jewett<br><br><a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>><br> <br>206.682.9112 / 253.383.3951<br><br>Literacy Network Of Washington<br><br>A division of Tacoma Community House<br><br><a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">www.LiteracyNOW.info</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">http://www.literacynow.info/</a>><br> <br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>This E-mail was scanned for viruses before being accepted by Renton Technical<br>College and verified to be virus-free with McAfee Secure Internet Gateway.<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a href="http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/838785c1/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/83878<br> 5c1/attachment-0001.html</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:59:57 -0800<br>From: "Lee Jewett" &lt;<a href="mailto:LJewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">LJewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>><br> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 2541]  Ld Info<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a>><br>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:31031E80609CFA4C97CB136998C8971686A527@ext.tchonline.org">31031E80609CFA4C97CB136998C8971686A527@ext.tchonline.org</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Thanks so much for the NCSALL link.  I was able to find some<br>information; not a lot but every bit helps.<br><br>Yeah.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Lee Jewett<br><br> <a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a><br>&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>><br><br>206.682.9112 / 253.383.3951<br> <br>Literacy Network Of Washington<br><br>A division of Tacoma Community House<br><br><a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">www.LiteracyNOW.info</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">http://www.literacynow.info/</a>><br> <br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a href="http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/05d265e7/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/05d26<br> 5e7/attachment-0001.html</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:15:19 -0500<br>From: Mary Kelly &lt;<a href="mailto:mskelly@aecom.yu.edu">mskelly@aecom.yu.edu</a>><br>Subject: [LearningDisabilities 2542] Re: Adult LD Stats<br> To: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List<br>       &lt;<a href="mailto:learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a>><br>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:20081106221215.555925D@post.aecom.yu.edu">20081106221215.555925D@post.aecom.yu.edu</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Lee:  You might want to check out the following.  There is a long<br>discussion of prevalence that includes references.  Its aging, but relevant.<br>Vogel, S.A. (1994).  Adults with learning disabilities:  What<br> learning disabilities specialists, adult literacy educators, and<br>other service providers want and need to know.  In Vogel, S.A. &amp;<br>Reder S. Learning disabilities, literacy, and adult education  (pp<br>5-29).  Baltimore:  Brookes Publishing Co.<br> <br>Mary S. Kelly, PhD<br>Director, Fisher Landau Center for the Treatment of LD<br>Albert Einstein College of Medicine<br>1165 Morris Park Ave.<br>Bronx, NY 10463<br><br>At 01:33 PM 11/5/2008, you wrote:<br>>Content-class: <a href="urn:content-classes">urn:content-classes</a>:message<br> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br>>         boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C93F75.0CF8CBC8"<br>><br>><br>>Hello All,<br>>I am working on a project through our LD System Project (LDSI) here<br> >in Washington State and wondering if you can help direct me to some<br>>stats regarding LD.<br>>I have been looking for information about the suspected number of<br>>incarcerated individuals with learning disabilities and the number<br> >of adults in adult education with learning disabilities. I have seen<br>>some stats quoted however they are not cited.  I have the Bridges to<br>>Practice fact sheet but these particular numbers are not cited.<br> >I'm wondering if anyone can help me find prevalence of ld in the<br>>incarcerated and ABE population.<br>>Thank you,<br>><br>><br>>Lee Jewett<br>>&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>><a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a><br> >206.682.9112 / 253.383.3951<br>>Literacy Network Of Washington<br>>A division of Tacoma Community House<br>>&lt;<a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">http://www.literacynow.info/</a>><a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">www.LiteracyNOW.info</a><br> ><br>>----------------------------------------------------<br>>National Institute for Literacy<br>>Learning Disabilities mailing list<br>><a href="mailto:LearningDisabilities@nifl.gov">LearningDisabilities@nifl.gov</a><br> >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to<br>><a href="http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities" target="_blank">http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities</a><br> >Email delivered to <a href="mailto:mskelly@aecom.yu.edu">mskelly@aecom.yu.edu</a><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a href="http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/81807e7b/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/learningdisabilities/attachments/20081106/81807<br> e7b/attachment-0001.html</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:13:57 -0500<br>From: Stephen L Noble &lt;<a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a>><br> Subject: [LearningDisabilities 2542] Re: Adult LD Stats<br>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov">Learningdisabilities@nifl.gov</a>><br>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:49137A38.0242.0072.0@gwise.louisville.edu">49137A38.0242.0072.0@gwise.louisville.edu</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<br><br>Here are a couple of resources you may find useful on the question of<br>incarceration...<br><br>THE INCIDENCE OF HIDDEN DISABILITIES IN THE PRISON POPULATION: Yorkshire and<br> Humberside Research<br><a href="http://www.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/Administration/uploads/HiddenDisabilities.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/Administration/uploads/HiddenDisabilities.pd<br>f</a><br><br> A Study of Young Offenders With Learning Disabilities<br><a href="http://jcx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/12/1/36" target="_blank">http://jcx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/12/1/36</a><br><br>Hope this helps,<br><br> --Steve Noble<br>President, Learning Disabilities Association of Kentucky<br><a href="mailto:steve.noble@louisville.edu">steve.noble@louisville.edu</a><br>502-969-3088<br><br>>>> "Lee Jewett" &lt;<a href="mailto:LJewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">LJewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>> 11/5/2008 1:33 PM >>><br> <br><br>Hello All,<br><br>I am working on a project through our LD System Project (LDSI) here in<br>Washington State and wondering if you can help direct me to some stats<br>regarding LD.<br><br>I have been looking for information about the suspected number of<br> incarcerated individuals with learning disabilities and the number of<br>adults in adult education with learning disabilities. I have seen some<br>stats quoted however they are not cited.  I have the Bridges to Practice<br> fact sheet but these particular numbers are not cited.<br><br>I'm wondering if anyone can help me find prevalence of ld in the<br>incarcerated and ABE population.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br><br><br><br><br>Lee Jewett<br> <br><a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a><br>&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org">ljewett@tacomacommunityhouse.org</a>><br><br>206.682.9112 / 253.383.3951<br> <br>Literacy Network Of Washington<br><br>A division of Tacoma Community House<br><br><a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">www.LiteracyNOW.info</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.literacynow.info/" target="_blank">http://www.literacynow.info/</a>><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>----------------------------------------------------<br>National Institute for Literacy<br>Learning Disabilities mailing list<br><a href="mailto:LearningDisabilities@nifl.gov">LearningDisabilities@nifl.gov</a><br> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go t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