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>From: "Wayne A Pascall" <wpascall1 at student.gsu.edu>

>Reply-To: "The Poverty, Race, &amp;  Literacy Discussion List" 

><povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov>

>To: cook.sandra at northlandscollege.sk.ca,povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov, 

>wpascall1 at student.gsu.edu,wapascall at hotmail.com

>CC: povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov

>Subject: Re: RE: [PovertyLiteracy] please reply

>Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:14:44 -0500

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>I think that Janice's posting is heartfelt and reflects the plight of many 

>women living in countries all over this world.  Her description of her 

>situation is poetic yet down to earth.  I know that if given the 

>opportunity, Janice can become a distinguished author or excel at anything 

>that she puts her mind to.  It maybe a great idea for her to tell her story 

>in the form of a book or essay, including the stereotyping of women's roles 

>in her culture.  Her grandmother achieving her GED in her 50's is exemplary 

>of a woman who was resilient in the face of hardship.

>

>Wayne

>

>Hi to all,

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: "Cook.Sandra" <cook.sandra at northlandscollege.sk.ca>

>To: "'The Poverty, Race, &  Literacy Discussion List'" 

><povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov>

>Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:03:35 -0600

>Subject: RE: [PovertyLiteracy] please reply

>

>I am so impressed with the dedication that this mother, wife and sister has

>to be educated.  It is that age old debate of nurture vs.

>nature...environment vs. personal desire.  To many women are in that same

>situation every day.  They need to know that they can overcome anything.

>And it is writing like Janice's that will let others know of the dedication

>and perseverance needed to become empowered.

>

>

>

>   _____

>

>From: povertyliteracy-bounces at dev.nifl.gov

>[mailto:povertyliteracy-bounces at dev.nifl.gov] On Behalf Of janice sapp

>Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:53 AM

>To: povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov

>Subject: RE: [PovertyLiteracy] please reply

>

>

>

>Hi Judith,  I did reply yesterday, but I think the email I sent is stuck in

>an outlook folder somewhere, hmmm.   Yes, I am writing, and I see the

>all-too-familiar  I did not go to school here in Italy where it is thought

>that girls do not need to learn to read and write as they will not need to

>be involved in the affairs of men; rather they need to be home where they

>can learn at their mother's knee:  how to clean, how to bake the daily

>bread, how to keep the kitchen garden, how to clean the daily fish, how to

>take care of the baby, how to make dinner for the husband and the children,

>how to ...., and if I didn't learn to read and write in Italy, then why

>should I learn to do so in English. My children are growing away from me as

>it is; I don't have time to study English; people look down their noses at

>me when I leave the apartment/neighborhood. I die early and young in

>childbirth; I am homesick; etc.  Most of all, I have to keep up the home

>because my husband, sons, and brothers (unmarried and who live with us) 

>have

>to walk miles to their jobs each day, work very hard in cold, cold weather,

>clean up, eat, sleep, and rise at dawn doing the same thing each day until

>the routine drives us all crazy as well as the babies screaming with colic

>or a woman cying out in child birth or Guarino, next door, beating his wife

>again half the night).  The women from the Jane Adams Society come with

>their snooty attitudes banging on our door to ask me questions about the

>schooling that my youngest children are getting, and I don't have time for

>them--their skinny bodies are bony and uncomfortable and their blue eyes,

>unfamilar and cold to me and mine, dart snooping and looking into every 

>nook

>and cranny and make judgements about the things of my ancestors that I 

>bring

>from my home:  my mother's crucifix, on the wall near the door to the

>apartment.  The dying Christ blesses us: our coming in and our going out.

>They ask if I will come to next meeting that will teach me and other 

>mothers

>more English; they say that I can bring Rafaella, my youngest, my babe in

>arms whom I am still nursing; I wonder how I could feed my child when she 

>is

>hungry?  I pretend that I do not understand.

>

>This is the gist of my grandmothers' recollections; I am dismayed because

>the no education theme runs through my mother's as well because she had to

>help her eldest sister with her children.  My mother's eldest sister,

>Rafaella or Rae, was beaten by a drunken husband, too often. Once my 

>mother,

>when he was at his drunkest, got into his face and told him off.  He left

>the house slamming and banging doors; he hated my mother, who dropped out 

>of

>school, being around, but did not touch my mother and disappeared, leaving

>my mother to help her sister with 4 small children.  Later my mother

>finished a GED.  She was in her 50's.

>

>So yes, I am writing.  No wonder the women had no time to get an education;

>they were too busy!

>

>Thanks for checking and yes, I am continuing to write.  hugs, jansapp

>

>

>   _____

>

>

>From: "Judith Sinclair" <j-p-sinclair at worldnet.att.net>

>Reply-To: "The Poverty, Race, & Literacy Discussion List"

><povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov>

>To: "The Poverty, Race, & Literacy Discussion List"

><povertyliteracy at dev.nifl.gov>

>Subject: [PovertyLiteracy] please reply

>Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:34:25 -0600

>

>Hello, I am concerned that I have not heard back from you.  Please let me

>know how you are doing, and also if you have decided not to continue

>writing.

>

>

>

>Thank you.

>

>

>

>Judith Sinclair, PhD

>Cognitive Psychologist

>Social and Behavioral Analyst

>Founder and CEO

>Sinclair & Associates International, LLC

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