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[PovertyRaceWomen 221] Re: PovertyRaceWomen Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15

Ujwala Samant lalumineuse at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 9 03:00:26 EST 2007


Andrea,

You could check the Actionaid website or google
REFLECT: The Mother Manual. I believe Hamlyn published
it. Alternately you could google David Archer and see
where it is sold.

I actually don't know about my dissertation. I think
it should be in the dissertation archives at Michigan?

I work for a tiny NGO called Learning for Life UK and
we have educational projects with local partners in
Afghanistan, India, Pakistan and the UK. The project
in the Himalayas is with an organisation called SIDH
(Gandhi and Freire combined) www.sidhsri.com. I try
and replicate their working (non-hierarchical)
relations in my office, but it's an interesting thing
how people expect and like hierarchy... They do
community development through education with villages
in the Himalayan foothills. Their women's groups are
truly inspirational and I never thought I'd use that
word again!

Cheers
Ujwala
--- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:


> Ujwala--

>

> Where could I get a copy of the manual?

>

> AND is there still a way to access your

> dissertation via the internet?

> I can't find my copy, and your study is so full

> of life it is

> irresistible. A URL? And what are you doing, now?

>

> THANKS!!

>

> Andrea

> On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Ujwala Samant wrote:

>

> > Bertha,

> >

> > I agree, I've found Chambers closed, and has not

> been

> > particularly women'friendly.

> >

> > Appropos Language: I've often wondered if in

> Freire's

> > native Portuguese, the language was easier to

> access?

> > I agree that the language is heavy and clunky.

> > ActionAid wrote a REFLECT manual (it is their

> > signature approach) based completely on Freire and

> it

> > has been successful as an approach in Bangladesh,

> > certain parts of Africa. I met David Archer and

> Sara

> > Cottingham at the ILI conference (1995?) when they

> had

> > just come out with the manual and learned how long

> it

> > took them to come up with the approach, develop

> the

> > manual and adapt it to Bangladeshi rural life, it

> was

> > fascinating. Upon reading it, I found that whilst

> I

> > quite liked the simplifications and a lot of what

> had

> > been done, I didn't agree with their dismissing of

> > other approaches, and some of their activities

> seemed

> > kitschy. Yet, when I spoke to people who had used

> > REFLECT, they said that it was my "academic

> cynicism"

> > speaking because in the villages, people quite

> liked

> > both the simple and complex terminologies.

> >

> > Language... a funny thing!

> > Ujwala

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >> I'm going to wade in here. I think Freire's

> >> approach is wonderful, his writing dense and

> >> intimidating. I also belong to the PLAINlist

> serve,

> >> which promotes plain, clear writing.

> >>

> >> Many of you have probably heard of Robert

> Chambers

> >> and his participatory approach to development/

> >> sometimes used in participatory approaches to

> >> education., which I also admire, but with

> >> reservations. After working with someone who was

> >> trained in his methods, I was told his tools are

> to

> >> be used exactly as they are taught with no

> >> adaptation even if they don't work in a

> particular

> >> setting. In addition, there is no effort to

> >> outreach to the marginalize or those who might no

> >> ordinarily be invited to participate in a local

> >> assessment.

> >> Your supposed to work with whomever the leaders

> have

> >> invited. In many settings, no women were invited

> >> and he felt that was okay.

> >>

> >> A sociology undergraduate, and now a Ph.D.

> medical

> >> anthropologist, I hate the pompous language used

> in

> >> social science writing. Yes, it is meant to

> exclude

> >> others.

> >>

> >> Bertie Mo

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >> populareducationa pproach (Andrea Wilder)

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> >> Message: 1

> >> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:45:29 -0500

> >> From: Andrea Wilder

> >> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 207] Re: GED programs

> >> with a

> >> populareducationa pproach

> >> To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy

> >> Discussion List"

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> >>

> >> Andres--

> >>

> >> It's the language that is associated with Freire,

> >> and that Ditmar used,

> >> some of it is quotations, I am sincerely grateful

> >> for that. I am also

> >> grateful for Ditmar embedding definitions in his

> >> text.

> >>

> >> But to your point, with or without quotations

> these

> >> word get my goat

> >> (obviously): class consciousness, class

> struggle,

> >> conscientisation,

> >> critical praxis, codification (which I actually

> >> usually do like), and

> >> pedagogical praxis.

> >>

> >> At one point Freire did go around the bend, my

> >> opinion, over in

> >> Africa, and started to dictate how his workbooks

> >> were to be used. TSK.

> >> Someone besides me picked this up, I was just

> >> reading along and there

> >> it was.

> >>

> >> By the way, I have I think a CD of Freire

> talking

> >> at Harvard's Ed

> >> School. That's ambiguous, I think it is a CD, I

> >> know it is at HGSE.

> >>

> >> David Rosen's list of attributes in

> Freirian/popular

> >> education teaching

> >> was profoundly human and adapted to a

> pluralistic

> >> American zeitgeist,

> >> my opinion.

> >>

> >> I understand Thoreau, I live near Walden Pond,

> I

> >> know the New

> >> England woods. Of course we have somewhat the

> same

> >> background, and

> >> MAYBE those who come from S.America feel more of

> a

> >> kinship with the

> >> writing style of Freire. Over to you, Andres.

> (AND

>

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