[PovertyRaceWomen 264] Re: PovertyRaceWomen Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24
Ujwala Samant
lalumineuse at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 11 02:42:14 EST 2007
She is a woman from the slums of Mumbai. I worked with
her in 1992. We were discussing her experiences in
Mumbai, living with a horrific mother-in-law, raising
4 daughters and a husband who abandoned her. She was
part of the Each One Teach One literacy scheme. It was
impressive how her words brought her experiences to
life.
Cheers
Ujwala
--- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> Ujwala--
>
> This is very powerful. Where did this woman live?
> Can you tell us
> more about the context?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Andrea
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Ujwala Samant wrote:
>
> > Dear Bertie,
> >
> > I agree with your description of Freire. Reading
> > really changes one permanently. Someone I worked
> with
> > said, it was as if she was really seeing for the
> first
> > time and that she did not know that world was so
> full
> > of letters. Another point this woman made was that
> she
> > could no longer return to a world where she did
> not
> > read: it was a permanent learning, a permanent
> change,
> > there was no slipping back into what she called
> the
> > well she used to live in.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ujwala
> >
> > --- Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Freire is a true revolutionary because he taught
> >> people to read, so they could read, think and
> >> hopefully act om their own behalf. I feel that
> my
> >> own education was remiss (and I went to the best
> >> schools) because my professors taught around
> Freire
> >> (....teach a person to fish and they'll never be
> >> hungry) because my MPH class in community health
> >> education was comprised of almost 3/4 people of
> >> color and perhaps they didn't think we were smart
> >> enough to understand Freire or perhaps they
> didn't
> >> want us to know Freire and his revolutionary
> work.
> >> I was lucky enough to continue my education and
> also
> >> be involved with people in my professional life
> who
> >> reintroduced him to me.
> >>
> >> Participating in this listserve has helped me to
> >> reflect back on my entry into graduate school
> during
> >> a time when non-physicians and people of color
> began
> >> to enter Schools of Public Health. The warm
> support
> >> of fellow students and the mixed messages from
> our
> >> primarily white professors is something that I
> had
> >> forgotten.
> >>
> >> I'm still interested in hearing examples of GED
> >> programs which use the Freirean model either
> >> consciously or unconsciously. I say
> unconsciously
> >> because I wanted to share a bit about the Adult
> High
> >> School of Ottawa, which closed a few years ago.
> A
> >> dear colleague rom the Carribbean was able to
> >> receive her GED at the school and then go on to
> >> College, University and is now a registered
> social
> >> worker. She is a change agent in our community
> >> speaking out about structural racism in Canada
> and
> >> teaching and speaking about the need for
> community/
> >> culturally competent service. My husband who
> helped
> >> to start a new meals on wheels programs for
> >> immigrant seniors was able to continue his
> education
> >> by doing two years of classes at the Adult High
> >> School before entering college. The vice
> principal
> >> of the Adult High School encouraged student
> >> leadership and my husband gave many motivational
> >> speeches as well as coached students in public
> >> speaking. Isn't this peer learning, which is one
> of
> >> Freire's approaches.
> >>
> >> Bertie Mo
> >>
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> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:22:59 -0800 (PST)
> >> From: Ujwala Samant
> >> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 232] Re: GED programs
> >> with a
> >> populareducationapproach
> >> To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy
> >> Discussion List"
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> >> Andrea,
> >>
> >>> You asked me what marxism is, and I replied.
> Did
> >> I
> >>> say that Freire
> >>> followed the tenets that I described as Marxist?
> >> No
> >>> I did not say that.<<
> >>
> >> You said Freire succumbed to Marxism and then
> >> proceeded to define it in terms that brought up
> >> image
> >> of what Marxism was to you. By virtue of that you
> >> implied that is what you felt Freire fell for.
> >>
> >>> There was a lot of discussion about marxism
> after
> >>> the USSR broke up.
> >>> I remember one guy on a radio talk show saying
> >>> something like this:
> >>> "But marxism has never been tried!" (Others
> were
> >>> calling the USSR a
> >>> marxist-leninist state.) He was right, So
> what
> >>> are we to do with the
> >>> contradiction? I listed the elements of
> >> marxism
> >>> as it has been
> >>> called, and as it has generally been agreed upon
> >> in
> >>> talk, newspapers,
> >>> etc.<<
>
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