Ujwala, do you have any online readings on this subject?  I have little to
no formal studies in this area, and while women's issues certainly interest
me, the "theory" and discipline are out of my scope.

Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt





-----Original Message-----
From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Ujwala Samant
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:00 AM
To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1353] Re: Apartheid


Katherine,

Lessing's brand of feminism was perfect for the time
in which she wrote her books. I remember the Golden
Notebook very well and the discussions that evoked.

Things have expanded, the globe has entered the
picture and the spectrum of feminism has evolved since
The Golden Notebook.

When defending my doctoral dissertation in 1993, I was
grilled by feminist educationalists, sociologists, and
women's studies specialists on why I felt Western
feminist theories did not fit the analysis for my
research and findings. I realised then, that even
though we were given readings that explored
non-western feminist theory (and believe me I'd read
them all), the frame of analysis was not as inclusive
or comprehensive. And I had wonderful people like Sari
Knopp Biklen, on my committee and as teachers.

regards
Ujwala

Regards,
Ujwala
--- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:


>

> Ujwala, how would you describe her "brand" of

> feminism?

>

> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf

> Of Ujwala Samant

> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:39 PM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion

> List

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1351] Re: Apartheid

>

>

> Perhaps we were... my comments were based on a

> response to Al Gore winning the Peace prize, Doris

> Lessing winning the Literature prize... talk about

> excellent lobbying, marketing and a political agenda

> geared to glorify a certain type of person. Sorry,

> the

> Buddhist monks who protest for peace the world over,

> the man who founded the Chipko movement, all of

> these

> deserve recognition... thank heavens for the

> Magsaysay

> award, this way the South has a way of recognising

> its

> own.

>

> Doris Lessing was fine for a certain era, but we

> have

> thankfully moved past her brand of 'feminism' and

> 'science fiction'. The rest of the world has

> unbelievable literature, perhaps it's time the

> literary world awoke and got literate!

>

> Cheers

> Ujwala

>

>

> --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

>

> > OOOPS!  Sorry!  I thought we were supposed to

> > comment on Doris.  My

> > apologies!

> >

> > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> Behalf

> > Of Ujwala Samant

> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:29 AM

> > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> Discussion

> > List

> > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1345] Re: Apartheid

> >

> >

> > Thank you for not discussing the Nobel prizes,

> > especially Doris Lessing. More racist and unfair

> > than

> > them is harder to accept in this day and age.

> There

> > is

> > literature, revolutionary literature, peace

> > activists,

> > outside of the narrow band of people who seem to

> > receive them. Unfortunately, they lack the

> marketing

> > and lobbying that the winners seem to have.

> >

> > With thanks,

> > Ujwala

> > --- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>

> wrote:

> >

> > > No, I'm not going to talk about Doris Lessing,

> who

> > > got a Nobel prize.

> > >

> > > This is about the female professor (Black

> > American)

> > > who had a noose

> > > hanging from eh office door...

> > >

> > > "As an undergraduate and master's student at

> > Xavier

> > > University in New

> > > Orleans, Dr. Constantine noticed that psychology

> > > textbooks tended to

> > > lump WOMEN, POOR PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE AND

> DISABLED

> > > PEOPLE under the

> > > umbrella 'disadvantaged populations'."  (p.A23)

> > >

> > > Then--"I want to be able to change some of the

> > > text."

> > >

> > > So...should we women have our own list serv?

> > >

> > > Andrea>

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