Hi Ujwala: I was just looking at some books and noticed that I have a
picture where I am sitting holding the daughter of a friend of mine and
Mary Belenky is sitting next to me. This is in a "Women in Literacy"
conference, I think, in Orlando Florida several years ago. I'd forgotten
about the picture which is on top of a stack of papers. I noticed it now
because you mentioned her.

Andres



-----Original Message-----
From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Ujwala Samant
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:51 PM
To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1356] Re: Apartheid

Hiya Katherine,

I have my bibliography which I will try and find and
email you. It was something I studied in class during
my Ph.D., and which I had to defend for my
dissertation defence. There are load of "classics"
from Audre Lorde, Lourdes Beneria, Shulamith
Firestone, Mary Daly, Mary Belenky, Carol Gilligan
etc. But those days (1991-1993) there was precious
little online. 

regards,
Ujwala


--- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:


> Ujwala, do you have any online readings on this

> subject?  I have little to

> no formal studies in this area, and while women's

> issues certainly interest

> me, the "theory" and discipline are out of my scope.

> 

> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf

> Of Ujwala Samant

> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:00 AM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion

> List

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1353] Re: Apartheid

> 

> 

> Katherine,

> 

> Lessing's brand of feminism was perfect for the time

> in which she wrote her books. I remember the Golden

> Notebook very well and the discussions that evoked.

> 

> Things have expanded, the globe has entered the

> picture and the spectrum of feminism has evolved

> since

> The Golden Notebook.

> 

> When defending my doctoral dissertation in 1993, I

> was

> grilled by feminist educationalists, sociologists,

> and

> women's studies specialists on why I felt Western

> feminist theories did not fit the analysis for my

> research and findings. I realised then, that even

> though we were given readings that explored

> non-western feminist theory (and believe me I'd read

> them all), the frame of analysis was not as

> inclusive

> or comprehensive. And I had wonderful people like

> Sari

> Knopp Biklen, on my committee and as teachers.

> 

> regards

> Ujwala

> 

> Regards,

> Ujwala

> --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> 

> >

> > Ujwala, how would you describe her "brand" of

> > feminism?

> >

> > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> Behalf

> > Of Ujwala Samant

> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:39 PM

> > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> Discussion

> > List

> > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1351] Re: Apartheid

> >

> >

> > Perhaps we were... my comments were based on a

> > response to Al Gore winning the Peace prize, Doris

> > Lessing winning the Literature prize... talk about

> > excellent lobbying, marketing and a political

> agenda

> > geared to glorify a certain type of person. Sorry,

> > the

> > Buddhist monks who protest for peace the world

> over,

> > the man who founded the Chipko movement, all of

> > these

> > deserve recognition... thank heavens for the

> > Magsaysay

> > award, this way the South has a way of recognising

> > its

> > own.

> >

> > Doris Lessing was fine for a certain era, but we

> > have

> > thankfully moved past her brand of 'feminism' and

> > 'science fiction'. The rest of the world has

> > unbelievable literature, perhaps it's time the

> > literary world awoke and got literate!

> >

> > Cheers

> > Ujwala

> >

> >

> > --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> > > OOOPS!  Sorry!  I thought we were supposed to

> > > comment on Doris.  My

> > > apologies!

> > >

> > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Ujwala Samant

> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:29 AM

> > > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> > Discussion

> > > List

> > > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1345] Re: Apartheid

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you for not discussing the Nobel prizes,

> > > especially Doris Lessing. More racist and unfair

> > > than

> > > them is harder to accept in this day and age.

> > There

> > > is

> > > literature, revolutionary literature, peace

> > > activists,

> > > outside of the narrow band of people who seem to

> > > receive them. Unfortunately, they lack the

> > marketing

> > > and lobbying that the winners seem to have.

> > >

> > > With thanks,

> > > Ujwala

> > > --- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > No, I'm not going to talk about Doris Lessing,

> > who

> > > > got a Nobel prize.

> > > >

> > > > This is about the female professor (Black

> > > American)

> > > > who had a noose

> > > > hanging from eh office door...

> > > >

> > > > "As an undergraduate and master's student at

> > > Xavier

> > > > University in New

> > > > Orleans, Dr. Constantine noticed that

> psychology

> > > > textbooks tended to

> > > > lump WOMEN, POOR PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE AND

> > DISABLED

> > > > PEOPLE under the

> > > > umbrella 'disadvantaged populations'." 

> (p.A23)

> > > >

> > > > Then--"I want to be able to change some of the

> > > > text."

> > > >

> > > > So...should we women have our own list serv?

> > > >

> > > > Andrea>

> > >

> >

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