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[PovertyRaceWomen 1359] Re: Apartheid

Ujwala Samant lalumineuse at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 16 02:23:20 EDT 2007


Hi Andres,

The last time I "saw" her was at the conference
organised by Mev Miller and We Read, two years ago.
She was the main speaker. She's still going strong.
Her book, and Carol Gilligan's "In a Different Voice"
(especially after having heard Kohlberg speak) were
influential for me, in terms of understanding women's
psychology. Audre Lorde was another such author.
Amongst the non-American ones, there was Madhu Kishwar
(two great reads are Women Writing in India I &II),
Ruth Vanita, Vandana Shiva, Shirin Rai, Shaheen Sardar
Ali, Gita Sen, and one could go on....

You ought to go to the We READ conferences. I always
feel bad that they're so far away from me. Sondra
Cuban and I were hoping to bring one to the UK.

Cheers
Ujwala


--- "Muro, Andres" <amuro5 at epcc.edu> wrote:


>

>

> Hi Ujwala: I was just looking at some books and

> noticed that I have a

> picture where I am sitting holding the daughter of a

> friend of mine and

> Mary Belenky is sitting next to me. This is in a

> "Women in Literacy"

> conference, I think, in Orlando Florida several

> years ago. I'd forgotten

> about the picture which is on top of a stack of

> papers. I noticed it now

> because you mentioned her.

>

> Andres

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf

> Of Ujwala Samant

> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:51 PM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion

> List

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1356] Re: Apartheid

>

> Hiya Katherine,

>

> I have my bibliography which I will try and find and

> email you. It was something I studied in class

> during

> my Ph.D., and which I had to defend for my

> dissertation defence. There are load of "classics"

> from Audre Lorde, Lourdes Beneria, Shulamith

> Firestone, Mary Daly, Mary Belenky, Carol Gilligan

> etc. But those days (1991-1993) there was precious

> little online.

>

> regards,

> Ujwala

>

>

> --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

>

> > Ujwala, do you have any online readings on this

> > subject? I have little to

> > no formal studies in this area, and while women's

> > issues certainly interest

> > me, the "theory" and discipline are out of my

> scope.

> >

> > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> Behalf

> > Of Ujwala Samant

> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:00 AM

> > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> Discussion

> > List

> > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1353] Re: Apartheid

> >

> >

> > Katherine,

> >

> > Lessing's brand of feminism was perfect for the

> time

> > in which she wrote her books. I remember the

> Golden

> > Notebook very well and the discussions that

> evoked.

> >

> > Things have expanded, the globe has entered the

> > picture and the spectrum of feminism has evolved

> > since

> > The Golden Notebook.

> >

> > When defending my doctoral dissertation in 1993, I

> > was

> > grilled by feminist educationalists, sociologists,

> > and

> > women's studies specialists on why I felt Western

> > feminist theories did not fit the analysis for my

> > research and findings. I realised then, that even

> > though we were given readings that explored

> > non-western feminist theory (and believe me I'd

> read

> > them all), the frame of analysis was not as

> > inclusive

> > or comprehensive. And I had wonderful people like

> > Sari

> > Knopp Biklen, on my committee and as teachers.

> >

> > regards

> > Ujwala

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ujwala

> > --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Ujwala, how would you describe her "brand" of

> > > feminism?

> > >

> > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Ujwala Samant

> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:39 PM

> > > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> > Discussion

> > > List

> > > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1351] Re: Apartheid

> > >

> > >

> > > Perhaps we were... my comments were based on a

> > > response to Al Gore winning the Peace prize,

> Doris

> > > Lessing winning the Literature prize... talk

> about

> > > excellent lobbying, marketing and a political

> > agenda

> > > geared to glorify a certain type of person.

> Sorry,

> > > the

> > > Buddhist monks who protest for peace the world

> > over,

> > > the man who founded the Chipko movement, all of

> > > these

> > > deserve recognition... thank heavens for the

> > > Magsaysay

> > > award, this way the South has a way of

> recognising

> > > its

> > > own.

> > >

> > > Doris Lessing was fine for a certain era, but we

> > > have

> > > thankfully moved past her brand of 'feminism'

> and

> > > 'science fiction'. The rest of the world has

> > > unbelievable literature, perhaps it's time the

> > > literary world awoke and got literate!

> > >

> > > Cheers

> > > Ujwala

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> > >

> > > > OOOPS! Sorry! I thought we were supposed to

> > > > comment on Doris. My

> > > > apologies!

> > > >

> > > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Ujwala Samant

> > > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:29 AM

> > > > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> > > Discussion

> > > > List

> > > > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1345] Re: Apartheid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for not discussing the Nobel prizes,

> > > > especially Doris Lessing. More racist and

> unfair

> > > > than

> > > > them is harder to accept in this day and age.

> > > There

> > > > is

> > > > literature, revolutionary literature, peace

> > > > activists,

> > > > outside of the narrow band of people who seem

> to

> > > > receive them. Unfortunately, they lack the

> > > marketing

>

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