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[PovertyRaceWomen 1360] Re: Apartheid

Muro, Andres amuro5 at epcc.edu
Tue Oct 16 12:05:48 EDT 2007


Ujwala:

I need to go to Mev's conferences. I met Mev and others many years ago
when we had a small grant from Laubach called Women in Literacy. I
remember that the WIL conferences were tiny and were always right before
the big Laubach conference. Also the awards were tiny, but I learnt more
from those conferences than in any other conference that I ever attended
and I am endlessly thankful to Jane Hugo, Beth Sauerhaft, Sally Gab,
Mev, the then director of Literacy South (can't think of her name now)
and many others who inspired me to do work in health literacy and
domestic violence.

Since then our program has done a lot of work in health literacy and
domestic trauma and we have gotten funding from many agencies to
continue the work. But, without a doubt it was the WIL conferences and
Jane Hugo's support that started us up.

Ironically, it was Laubach a traditionally conservative literacy entity
that had a very progressive, non traditional side in the WIL conference
and funding. I told Jane and Peter Whitie (sp?) the director of Laubach
and later pro literacy that I felt that they had the best conference in
the country and they had to continue sponsoring WIL. However, all very
good things come in small amounts and must end.

Andres

-----Original Message-----
From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Ujwala Samant
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:23 AM
To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1359] Re: Apartheid

Hi Andres,

The last time I "saw" her was at the conference
organised by Mev Miller and We Read, two years ago.
She was the main speaker. She's still going strong.
Her book, and Carol Gilligan's "In a Different Voice"
(especially after having heard Kohlberg speak) were
influential for me, in terms of understanding women's
psychology. Audre Lorde was another such author.
Amongst the non-American ones, there was Madhu Kishwar
(two great reads are Women Writing in India I &II),
Ruth Vanita, Vandana Shiva, Shirin Rai, Shaheen Sardar
Ali, Gita Sen, and one could go on....

You ought to go to the We READ conferences. I always
feel bad that they're so far away from me. Sondra
Cuban and I were hoping to bring one to the UK.

Cheers
Ujwala


--- "Muro, Andres" <amuro5 at epcc.edu> wrote:


>

>

> Hi Ujwala: I was just looking at some books and

> noticed that I have a

> picture where I am sitting holding the daughter of a

> friend of mine and

> Mary Belenky is sitting next to me. This is in a

> "Women in Literacy"

> conference, I think, in Orlando Florida several

> years ago. I'd forgotten

> about the picture which is on top of a stack of

> papers. I noticed it now

> because you mentioned her.

>

> Andres

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf

> Of Ujwala Samant

> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:51 PM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion

> List

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1356] Re: Apartheid

>

> Hiya Katherine,

>

> I have my bibliography which I will try and find and

> email you. It was something I studied in class

> during

> my Ph.D., and which I had to defend for my

> dissertation defence. There are load of "classics"

> from Audre Lorde, Lourdes Beneria, Shulamith

> Firestone, Mary Daly, Mary Belenky, Carol Gilligan

> etc. But those days (1991-1993) there was precious

> little online.

>

> regards,

> Ujwala

>

>

> --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

>

> > Ujwala, do you have any online readings on this

> > subject? I have little to

> > no formal studies in this area, and while women's

> > issues certainly interest

> > me, the "theory" and discipline are out of my

> scope.

> >

> > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> Behalf

> > Of Ujwala Samant

> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:00 AM

> > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> Discussion

> > List

> > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1353] Re: Apartheid

> >

> >

> > Katherine,

> >

> > Lessing's brand of feminism was perfect for the

> time

> > in which she wrote her books. I remember the

> Golden

> > Notebook very well and the discussions that

> evoked.

> >

> > Things have expanded, the globe has entered the

> > picture and the spectrum of feminism has evolved

> > since

> > The Golden Notebook.

> >

> > When defending my doctoral dissertation in 1993, I

> > was

> > grilled by feminist educationalists, sociologists,

> > and

> > women's studies specialists on why I felt Western

> > feminist theories did not fit the analysis for my

> > research and findings. I realised then, that even

> > though we were given readings that explored

> > non-western feminist theory (and believe me I'd

> read

> > them all), the frame of analysis was not as

> > inclusive

> > or comprehensive. And I had wonderful people like

> > Sari

> > Knopp Biklen, on my committee and as teachers.

> >

> > regards

> > Ujwala

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ujwala

> > --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Ujwala, how would you describe her "brand" of

> > > feminism?

> > >

> > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Ujwala Samant

> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:39 PM

> > > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> > Discussion

> > > List

> > > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1351] Re: Apartheid

> > >

> > >

> > > Perhaps we were... my comments were based on a

> > > response to Al Gore winning the Peace prize,

> Doris

> > > Lessing winning the Literature prize... talk

> about

> > > excellent lobbying, marketing and a political

> > agenda

> > > geared to glorify a certain type of person.

> Sorry,

> > > the

> > > Buddhist monks who protest for peace the world

> > over,

> > > the man who founded the Chipko movement, all of

> > > these

> > > deserve recognition... thank heavens for the

> > > Magsaysay

> > > award, this way the South has a way of

> recognising

> > > its

> > > own.

> > >

> > > Doris Lessing was fine for a certain era, but we

> > > have

> > > thankfully moved past her brand of 'feminism'

> and

> > > 'science fiction'. The rest of the world has

> > > unbelievable literature, perhaps it's time the

> > > literary world awoke and got literate!

> > >

> > > Cheers

> > > Ujwala

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Katherine G <Kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> > >

> > > > OOOPS! Sorry! I thought we were supposed to

> > > > comment on Doris. My

> > > > apologies!

> > > >

> > > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

> > > > [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Ujwala Samant

> > > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:29 AM

> > > > To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> > > Discussion

> > > > List

> > > > Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1345] Re: Apartheid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for not discussing the Nobel prizes,

> > > > especially Doris Lessing. More racist and

> unfair

> > > > than

> > > > them is harder to accept in this day and age.

> > > There

> > > > is

> > > > literature, revolutionary literature, peace

> > > > activists,

> > > > outside of the narrow band of people who seem

> to

> > > > receive them. Unfortunately, they lack the

> > > marketing

>

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