Hillary Clinton is a survivor.  She has made her mistakes, but she has  
lasted and she has learned.  I STRONGLY  identify with her.  I also  
know that she will start getting verbal brickbats of disgusting  
language thrown at her very soon.  She is also very courageous.

Andrea

On Jan 9, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Katherine G wrote:


> I agree this is history in the making (will read the op-ed later as  

> time allows).  And I think it's amazing to be living in this era  

> because of that.  Still, we need to think through our voting decisions  

> to make sure we are truly voting for candidate we believe will do the  

> best job.  We ALL get so hung up on the external that we forget what  

> is really important.  That's easy to do when the really important  

> things tend to be more abstract.  Candidates often "dumb it all down"  

> for the general public.  When they do this, the tend to simplify what  

> are really complex issues that require more thought than, "I'm for  

> immigration reform."  Okay...so what are you going to DO about it, and  

> what have you done before that will make me believe you are capable?

>  

>  -----Original Message-----

> From: Smith, Harriet [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On  

> Behalf Of Smith, Harriet

> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:37 AM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List

> Subject: RE: [PovertyRaceWomen 1500] Re: Democratic Party Election  

> Results

>

>> In theory, I agree with Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt's statement  

>> that "It would be wonderful to get away from the gender and ethnicity  

>> focus.  A candidate is a candidate." But I believe there's no  

>> excaping the implications of this election in terms of gender and  

>> race. We are witnessing this year an amazing historic moment that I  

>> expect we'll all be asked about by our grandchildren.

>>  

>> I was also attempting to take a gender and race-neutral stance in  

>> evaluating candidates, but Gloria Steinem's recent op-ed piece in the  

>> New York Times cured me of that notion.

>>  

>> Women Are Never Front-Runners

>> By GLORIA STEINEM

>> Published: January 8, 2008

>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08steinem.html? 

>> scp=1&sq=steinem

>>  

>>

>>

>> ------------------------

>> Harriet Vardiman Smith

>> Clearinghouse Project Director

>> and Interim Acting Center Director

>> Texas Center for the Advancement of Literacy & Learning

>> Texas A&M University

>> Website:  www-tcall.tamu.edu

>>  

>> Human history becomes more and more a race between education and  

>> catastrophe.

>> -- H. G. Wells (author, historian and utopian)

>>

>> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Katherine G

>> Sent: Wed 1/9/2008 9:52 AM

>> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1500] Re: Democratic Party Election Results

>>

>>

>> It would be wonderful to get away from the gender and ethnicity  

>> focus.  A

>> candidate is a candidate.  Body parts and skin color should have  

>> nothing to

>> do with it.  I am voting for a President, not a body (unless you want  

>> to

>> argue that we are voting for the candidate's brain, but that's more  

>> about

>> how they make policy).  It irks me when people believe, "I'm a woman,  

>> so I

>> must vote for Clinton" or "I'm African-American so I must vote for  

>> Obama."

>> I want the person who can do the job and make our country and world a  

>> better

>> place to live in.

>>

>> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

>> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf Of McNutt Jr,

>> William R

>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:08 AM

>> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1499] Re: Democratic Party Election Results

>>

>>

>> One of the things that I, as a southerner, am excited about, is that  

>> the

>> fact that an African American and a woman are the top contenders for a

>> major party is not subject to a lot of commentary.

>>

>> I'm hoping that this is a sign that we have turned a corner.

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov

>> [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Daphne  

>> Greenberg

>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:12 AM

>> To: povertyracewomen at nifl.gov

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1498] Democratic Party Election Results

>>

>> As I asked last week, after the Iowa results, I am wondering today,

>> after the New Hampshire results, if adult literacy learners and  

>> teachers

>> are talking to each other (whether in formal civics classes or in

>> informal hallway conversations) about the fact that a female and an

>> African American are top contenders in one of the party's election

>> results. Are learners engaged in this presidential election-are adult

>> literacy classes talking about the results?

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