OK--more on the problem of "diversity;"  no one knows what you mean  
(except Black) unless you specify what you mean, so we might as well  
specify to begin with--women? poor?  etc etc.

Andrea
On Jan 11, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Bertha Mo wrote:


> As an anthropologist, I've learned that meaning is often dictated by  

> context and circumstances.  I participate on list serves such as this  

> one just to enhance the meaning of the term "diversity."

>  

> Bertie Mo, Ph.D., MPH

>

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>> Message: 1

>> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:46:40 -0500

>> From: "Taylor, Jackie"

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1509] Diversity and Literacy

>> To:

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>> List friends,

>>

>> I have been watching the discussion about the list name for the  

>> Poverty,

>> Race, Women and Literacy List, and reviewing the options. A name

>> embraces who we are and what we are about. I'm wondering, are we

>> limiting ourselves by choosing a very descriptive name?

>>

>>

>>

>> What about choosing a name that is fully inclusive of all groups that

>> find themselves on the margins? None of the names below really suggest

>> that except for "Diversity and Literacy" and "Literacy and Voice." If

>> the name were "Class, Color, Gender, and Literacy" I don't see how  

>> that

>> would allow for discussions of the elderly and literacy, or of ableism

>> for example, the discrimination against those with disabilities. I  

>> don't

>> believe we have postings purely on class, color, or gender.

>>

>>

>>

>> The advantage of the name "Diversity and Literacy" is that it allows  

>> for

>> the full range of topics that concern our community and the  

>> intersection

>> of those topics, like the discussions occurring this week, for  

>> example.

>>

>>

>>

>> What do others think?

>>

>>

>>

>> Jackie

>>

>>

>>

>> Jackie Taylor, Adult Literacy Professional Development List Moderator,

>> jataylor at utk.edu

>>

>>

>>

>> ________________________________

>>

>> Thanks to all the contributors who sent in ideas regarding the  

>> possible

>> name change for our list. After reviewing the different possibilities

>> and discussing them with National Institute for Literacy staff, it  

>> seems

>> as if the following names fit the most appropriately with the purpose  

>> of

>> our discussion list (listed in alphabetical order):

>>

>> Class, Color, Gender, and Literacy

>> Class, Ethnicity, Gender, and Literacy

>> Class, Gender, Race, and Literacy

>> Diversity and Literacy

>> Gender, Income, Race, and Literacy

>> Gender. Poverty, Race, and Literacy

>> Literacy and Voice

>>

>> Or

>>

>> Keeping it as is: Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy

>>

>> It is completely up to us which of the above names we want to select.

>>

>> Please be aware, that if we change the name of the list, we will need  

>> to

>> create a new list. Current subscribers will be automatically  

>> subscribed

>> to the new list. Each subscriber will receive a confirmation email  

>> with

>> a new password and information about the list.

>>

>> Here is what I am proposing. Between now and January 21, let us have a

>> discussion on the pros and cons of the various names above (please do

>> not suggest new names). Then between January 22nd and February 11th,

>> people can select their top choice (only one please) either on list or

>> off list to me (dgreenberg at gsu.edu

>> )

>>

>> So who, would like to start the discussion by providing feedback on  

>> the

>> pros/cons of any of the above names for our list?

>>

>> Daphne

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>> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:10:18 -0500

>> From: Andrea Wilder

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1509] Re: Diversity and Literacy

>> To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List"

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>> Hi Jackie--

>>

>> The problem with diversity : a euphemism for black. I find this

>> everywhere.

>>

>> Andrea.

>>

>>

>> On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Taylor, Jackie wrote:

>>

>> > List friends,

>> > I have been watching the discussion about the list name for the

>> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List, and reviewing the options. A

>> > name embraces who we are and what we are about. I?m wondering, are  

>> we

>> > limiting ourselves by choosing a very descriptive name? ?

>> > ?

>> > What about choosing a name that is fully inclusive of all groups  

>> that

>> > find themselves on the margins? None of the names below really  

>> suggest

>> > that except for ?Diversity and Literacy? and ?Literacy and Voice.?  

>> If

>> > the name were ?Class, Color, Gender, and Literacy? I don?t see how

>> > that would allow for discussions of the elderly and literacy, or of

>> > ableism for example, the discrimination against those with

>> > disabilities. I don?t believe we have postings purely on class,  

>> color,

>> > or gender.

>> > ?

>> > The advantage of the name ?Diversity and Literacy? is that it allows

>> > for the full range of topics that concern our community and the

>> > intersection of those topics, like the discussions occurring this

>> > week, for example.

>> > ?

>> > What do others think?

>> > ?

>> > Jackie

>> > ?

>> > Jackie Taylor, Adult Literacy Professional Development List  

>> Moderator,

>> > jataylor at utk.edu

>> > ?

>> >

>> > Thanks to all the contributors who sent in ideas regarding the

>> > possible name change for our list. After reviewing the different

>> > possibilities and discussing them with National Institute for  

>> Literacy

>> > staff, it seems as if the following names fit the most appropriately

>> > with the purpose of our discussion list (listed in alphabetical

>> > order):

>> >

>> > Class, Color, Gender, and Literacy

>> > Class, Ethnicity, Gender, and Literacy

>> > Class, Gender, Race, and Literacy

>> > Diversity and Literacy

>> > Gender, Income, Race, and Literacy

>> > Gender. Poverty, Race, and Literacy

>> > Literacy and Voice

>> >

>> > Or

>> >

>> > Keeping it as is: Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy

>> >

>> > It is completely up to us which of the above names we want to  

>> select.

>> >

>> > Please be aware, that if we change the name of the list, we will  

>> need

>> > to create a new list. Current subscribers will be automatically

>> > subscribed to the new list. Each subscriber will receive a

>> > confirmation email with a new password and information about the  

>> list.

>> >

>> > Here is what I am proposing. Between now and January 21, let us have

>> > a discussion on the pros and cons of the various names above (please

>> > do not suggest new names). Then between January 22nd and February

>> > 11th, people can select their top choice (only one please) either on

>> > list or off list to me (dgreenberg at gsu.edu)

>> >

>> > So who, would like to start the discussion by providing feedback on

>> > the pros/cons of any of the above names for our list?

>> >

>> > Daphne

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