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[PovertyRaceWomen 1655] Re: Comments about oppression

Daniel Rizik-Baer drizikbaer at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 17:52:07 EST 2008


Race- based solely on the color of skin, it has more recently come to
signify a host of other characteristics.



A more apt description is Ethnicity- taking into account culture, and
geography, place of origin etc.





I think defining is truly missing in so much discussion.



I cannot help, because of my sociological background, to notice when Latinos
refer to La Raza, when "latin" is an ethnicity- defined by a mixture of
European and indigenous origins. Brown has now become part of our racial
discourse, but the definition of brown also changes over time. How many
arabs are referred to as brown? Most arabs, historically, were actually
considered "white."



And on that subject, what is "white?" Is it Aryan, Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon?



Most anti- racists that I speak to say it is when your skin is light
colored. However, Jews have only recently become lumped into the "white"
category.



Black is a race, African-American is a name based on nationality but is
usually used to denote ethnicity.







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From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:27 PM
To: The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1651] Re: Comments about oppression



OK, many have tossed the word RACE around. Everyone abhors RACISM. Now--can
we please define RACE? Please? Otherwise, I do feel that this conversation
will dissolve like fog under the sun, snow under road salt, or whatever
metaphor is appropriate.

Andrea

On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Dr. Kathleen P. King wrote:

Daniel-
Wonderful articulation fo the complexity of these issues
Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights with us

And yes Eric, It pains me terrificly that it was the US flag flying above
those camps and that if flies over some wars that this country has been
involved in.

Thank you both -
Kathy


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