[PovertyRaceWomen 1661] Re: Comments about oppression
Daniel Rizik-Baer
drizikbaer at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 18:38:34 EST 2008
When we say race we are talking about classification based on skin color.
Racism is the act of limiting options and choices, and creating a lower
class of people based on their "race."
I italicize class because at its core, racism is about keeping all people of
a predetermined biological characteristic in a particular socio-political
class- one that does not have access to equal rights.
That is why "separate but equal" is a fallacy, no one uses racism to create
a separate but equal upper class made up of the "other."
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[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:08 PM
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Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1659] Re: Comments about oppression
OK, so when we say "race" we are talking about those with black or dark skin
whose ancestors, or themselves, came from Africa. We are also talking about
the history of many of these people with dark skin in this country, that is,
their history of being enslaved. Racism then would be????
Andrea
On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Daniel Rizik-Baer wrote:
Race- based solely on the color of skin, it has more recently come to
signify a host of other characteristics.
A more apt description is Ethnicity- taking into account culture, and
geography, place of origin etc.
I think defining is truly missing in so much discussion.
I cannot help, because of my sociological background, to notice when Latinos
refer to La Raza, when "latin" is an ethnicity- defined by a mixture of
European and indigenous origins. Brown has now become part of our racial
discourse, but the definition of brown also changes over time. How many
arabs are referred to as brown? Most arabs, historically, were actually
considered "white."
And on that subject, what is "white?" Is it Aryan, Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon?
Most anti- racists that I speak to say it is when your skin is light
colored. However, Jews have only recently become lumped into the "white"
category.
Black is a race, African-American is a name based on nationality but is
usually used to denote ethnicity.
I
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[mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
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Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1651] Re: Comments about oppression
OK, many have tossed the word RACE around. Everyone abhors RACISM. Now--can
we please define RACE? Please? Otherwise, I do feel that this conversation
will dissolve like fog under the sun, snow under road salt, or whatever
metaphor is appropriate.
Andrea
On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Dr. Kathleen P. King wrote:
Daniel-
Wonderful articulation fo the complexity of these issues
Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights with us
And yes Eric, It pains me terrificly that it was the US flag flying above
those camps and that if flies over some wars that this country has been
involved in.
Thank you both -
Kathy
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