Michael, can you explain how reparations for families of former slaves entails?  I've read discussions about this, and I can't see how to do it (with land) without there being more "reservations" and/or segregation created.  Or are you talking about monetary reparations?  If so, how does THAT work?  Where does the money come from?

Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt
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  From: Michael Tate 
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  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:03 PM
  Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1667] Re: Comments about oppression


  Some of the money is in reparations which have STILL not been paid to the families of  former slaves.  

   

  Reparations  (small though they are) have been paid to some of the interned Japanese.  Some effort (not really very much effort) has been expended to return artworks and other property stolen by the Nazi.  Bayer, VW and some Swiss banks have been pestered about returning money, paying off insurance  policies, paying wages to WW II slave laborers.   Korea and China have sought reparations from the Japanese for torture and for sex slavery.  American Indians have, at least, been given tiny bits of land and some competitive advantages.  

   

  What is it that makes it so, so difficult for the US to pay reparations to the families of former slaves?  

   

  Why do we imprison so many Black men?  Why are their sentences harsher and  longer?

   

  Last week I watched "Banished" on PBS.  It was the story of two Black families trying to get the land they lost to ethnic cleansing back.   They weren't successful.

   

  Why was the US doing ethnic cleansing of Blacks at the turn of the 20th Century?

   

  Why have there been so many lynchings, murders and rapes of Blacks?   

   

  Why is it for more than 400 years, the US has brutalized Black men, women and children at nearly every turn?

   

   

   

  Michael Tate

   

   

   

  From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:40 PM
  To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List
  Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 1662] Re: Comments about oppression

   

  OK, so racism is an ideology based on the spurious concept of race, that attaches negative attributes to those defined by "race." Under these negative attributes is greed--those on the other side gain financially through the ideology of racism. --I have to put money in here, it is my practice to ask, when a contentious issue rises its head, "Where is the money in this problem?" OK, then why do we not enclose this spurious concept in quotation marks to designate it as spurious? 

   

  Andrea 

   

  On Feb 22, 2008, at 6:05 PM, margery freeman wrote: 

     

    In the work I do with The People's Institute, Andrea, we define race historically.  We say that race is a specious (looking true but actually false) classification of human beings created by Europeans and white Americans in the 16th-18th centuries, that uses the notion of "white" as the model of humanity, in order to establish and maintain power.  Racism is the ideology, or belief system, based on race. 

    This isn't the way race is used in every day speech, but it does help us understand how we've all been played. 

    Margery 

     

    Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote: 

      OK, many have tossed the word RACE around. Everyone abhors RACISM. 

      Now--can we please define RACE? Please? Otherwise, I do feel that 

      this conversation will dissolve like fog under the sun, snow under road 

      salt, or whatever metaphor is appropriate. 

       

      Andrea 

       

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      > Daniel- 

      > Wonderful articulation fo the complexity of these issues 

      > Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights with us 

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