Hi,


> " Real education, not just information

> and skills development, now that is what I call

> radical, and there are precious few who actually

> have

> the courage to do it."

> 

> AMEN.<<


I have seen terrible quality private schools in those
regions and equally miserable government schools. The
thing is to ensure quality and access.
 

> However, in defense of Mortenson, it could be his

> best seller is what keeps 

> funding these schools.  If I had a best seller and

> were rich, I'd keep 

> earning money so I could give more away : )<<


I agree with you on this. It is getting incredibly
hard to win support for education with statutory
donors because everyone believes that education is the
government's responsibility. We look for the
government to take over and manage our schools, so
that our children can have free resources and our
school costs covered. Even that is hard to get. 

Cheers
Ujwala




> 

> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> www.luxuriouschoices.net

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Ujwala Samant" <lalumineuse at yahoo.com>

> To: "The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion

> List" 

> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:53 AM

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2128] Re: Mastery

> 

> 

> >I work for an NGO where that is what we do. We have

> 75

> > schools in the NWFP region of Pakistan, all owned

> and

> > run by villagers. And aside from us, there are

> plenty

> > of local people who have done this, in the face of

> > serious opposition. But they have not had

> millionaire

> > godparents, nor bestsellers written about their

> work.

> > They just get on with what they see as necessary

> and

> > crucial for development. I am not undermining what

> > Mortenson did. But there are others, local unsung

> > people such as the founder of KHOJ, Ms Nasira

> Habib

> > who have done this  despite regular threats from

> local

> > landlords, thugs in highly traditional Pakistani

> > society. Now that, is radical! And the education

> her

> > communities receive, I wish my own son had. Her

> first

> > two graduates (women) stood for local elections

> amidst

> > much opposition. Real education, not just

> information

> > and skills development, now that is what I call

> > radical, and there are precious few who actually

> have

> > the courage to do it.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Ujwala

> >

> >

> > --- Katherine <kgotthardt at comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> >> So you ladies don't think there is ANYTHING

> >> revolutionary about going back

> >> and opening a school?  That's pretty radical in

> my

> >> mind.  It's out of the

> >> ordinary.  It's EXTRAORDINARY in fact.

> >>

> >> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> >> www.luxuriouschoices.net

> >> ----- Original Message ----- 

> >> From: "Andrea Wilder" <andreawilder at comcast.net>

> >> To: "The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy

> Discussion

> >> List"

> >> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:51 AM

> >> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2124] Re: Mastery

> >>

> >>

> >> > Ujwala--

> >> >

> >> > Yes, he was extremely lucky.  As I recall, the

> >> porter who rescued him

> >> > had knowledge of western ways, so Mortenson was

> >> somewhat understood, as

> >> > a person and as an acceptable member of his

> >> western group--he was not

> >> > an oddball.  There were  other factors specific

> to

> >> Mortenson that

> >> > enabled him to do what he did--beyond luck, and

> >> having to do with his

> >> > background.

> >> >

> >> >  He was also captured and (briefly) imprisoned

> >> when he did NOT follow

> >> > the rules.  He got out of imprisonment when he

> DID

> >> follow the rules.

> >> >

> >> > Read the book.

> >> >

> >> > Andrea

> >> >

> >> > On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Ujwala Samant

> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Andrea,

> >> >>

> >> >> That's the book I am struggling to read, to

> get

> >> into.

> >> >> I give him full marks for adapting, that must

> >> have

> >> >> been extremely hard; given the mountains, the

> >> culture

> >> >> and the language. I also think he was

> extremely

> >> lucky

> >> >> to have found the welcome he received, given

> >> those

> >> >> areas.

> >> >>

> >> >> Cheers

> >> >> Ujwala

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> --- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>

> >> wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>> Ujwala--

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Greg Mortenson of "Three Cups of Tea"

> succeeded

> >> >>> because he was able to

> >> >>> learn the rules, I think his story is pretty

> >> >>> dramatic;  shows what can

> >> >>> be accomplished when some one has the

> diligence

> >> and

> >> >>> desire to learn how

> >> >>> to behave properly in order to get a job

> done.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Andrea

> >> >>>

> >> >>>

> >> >>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Ujwala Samant

> >> wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>> Just noted a typo my post. It should read,

> "We

> >> >>> call

> >> >>>> people by their first names." Or, "It's

> normal

> >> to

> >> >>> call

> >> >>>> people by their first names."

> >> >>>> Ujwala

> >> >>>> --- Daniel Rizik-Baer <drizikbaer at gmail.com>

> >> >>> wrote:

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>> Ujwala-

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> "> I think everyone knows the hidden rules,

> >> they

> >> >>> are

> >> >>>>>> just not in plain site.

> >> >>>>>> Knowing that they are there is a big step

> >> >>> towards

> >> >>>>>> understanding.<<

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> I think there is a huge leap of faith in

> the

> >> >>> first

> >> >>>>> statement. Rules are learned, through

> >> >>> observation,

> >> >>>>> education and interaction. How many of our

> >> >>> learners

> >> >>>>> have positive, direct, educational

> interaction

> >> >>> upon

> >> >>>>> arrival? "We don't ask someone their age or

> >> >>> income."

> >> >>>>> comes to mind. "We don't call everyone by

> >> their

> >> >>>>> first

> >> >>>>> name." When asked "How're you doing?" it is

> >> not

> >> >>> an

> >> >>>>> invitation to discuss your state of mind or

> >> >>> being. I

> >> >>>>> could go on..... I think there are things

> to

> >> be

> >> >>>>> learned through interaction, and some

> through

> 

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