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[PD 4119] Re: On the meaning of politics and why teachingispolitical
Tanya Exum
tanya_ex at hotmail.comFri Oct 30 22:54:29 EDT 2009
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 mhefner at cccti.edu writes: "How does an educator effectively deliver subject content while at the same time allowing for critical analysis and debate?"
If the teacher has a structured classroom environment, it should not be that difficult to set the rules of the debate ahead of time. If students (and the teacher) know that the rules include limited time, certain etiquette, and the consequences of breaking these rules - the analysis and synthesis shoul not take the dramatic turns. Yes, feelings are aroused and emotions can run high, but our students need to learn how to express them (which is one of our ultimate Language goals).
Tatyana Exum
Academic Instructor
Lake City Correctional Facility
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:33:21 -0400
From: mhefner at cccti.edu
To: professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov
Subject: [PD 4117] Re: On the meaning of politics and why teachingispolitical
I think that labels or generalizations of any kind often lead to misunderstandings although some may argue that generalizations are actually conclusions drawn using critical analysis. My point, although perhaps feebly made, is that some of us can “see”, even after great analysis, the same thing but come to different conclusions. Otherwise, how can one explain the vast differences of opinion on and conclusions about a whole cadre of topics ranging from global warming/climate change, religion, healthcare, Iraq and Afghanistan, human rights, etc?
Clearly, terms such as “social justice”, “social progress”, etc. have different meanings to different people. To some, those terms have negative connotations; to others, those terms are beacons of inspiration; to others, the terms are merely descriptive. I do believe that there are some educators who fit the labels that Kearney used just as I believe there are some educators on the other end of the ideological spectrum who live up to labels often ascribed to them.
It takes a very adept educator to create a learning environment where learners can express opinions, draw their own conclusions, play devil’s advocate with one’s own ideas as well as those of others, as well as present subject content in a manner resulting in authentic learning taking place. I’ve seen a growing number of entirely well intended and dedicated educators who are unable to successfully facilitate integration of subject content with critical analysis without presenting their own views as “THE answer” or without, perhaps unintentionally, regarding opposing views as inferior for flawed. While that may not be problematic for some, it’s disconcerting to me since educators are in positions of authority wielding significant influence over learners.
Conversations about opinions, worldviews, beliefs, or personal conclusions, even when specific to instructional content and under the auspices of critical analysis, can too often rapidly deteriorate into a “who’s right, who’s wrong” exchange. For example, in a science lesson about climate, students who dismiss or deny global warming/climate change as well as those who emphatically support the notion of global warming/climate change each may be considered extremists by the other. How does an educator effectively deliver subject content while at the same time allowing for critical analysis and debate? Increasingly, I’m seeing the lesson content, in this example solar radiation, air masses, pressure systems, ocean currents, etc. become secondary to the ideological debate. Please don’t misunderstand me: I’m not opposed at all to the debate and understand, even encourage, the integration of subject content with critical analysis. Again, my concern is that the lesson content is increasingly becoming secondary. Simply put, I think that academic rigor has suffered as the result of an inequitable emphasis on politically, socially, and culturally charged issues.
Melinda
Melinda M. Hefner
Director, Literacy Support Services
Basic Skills Department
Caldwell Community College and Technical Institute
2855 Hickory Blvd.
Hudson, North Carolina 28638
Office: 828.726.2245
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>>> On 10/30/2009 at 3:39 pm, in message <A63A073F42F08B41AD4354FA015F94E7CC81CE at mail2.carrollcc.edu>, "Roe, Cynthia" <CRoe at carrollcc.edu> wrote:
I have to agree with Kearney. Of all the teachers I have known, I can think of only one who was able to challenge her students to think critically without communicating or even hinting at her personal ideologies. I am sure there are teachers like her out there, but I am not one of them. I have tried to emulate her, but more often than not I have failed. So I try to steer clear of politically charged texts.
Cynthia L. Roe
Instructional Specialist
Continuing Education and Training, Adult Education Programs
Carroll Community College
224 North Center Street
Westminster, MD 21157
410-386-2552
From: professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:professionaldevelopment-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Karen Mundie
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:08 AM
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Subject: [PD 4106] Re: On the meaning of politics and why teaching ispolitical
Kearney, I don't get the notion that there's anything condescending about approaching texts (newspapers, letters, textbooks) or even beliefs and values with a spirit of inquiry and even a bit of skepticism. I've learned so much from students who've challenged some of my orthodoxies---and I've never felt condescended to.
Karen Mundie
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On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Kearney Lykins wrote:
Literacy practitioners:
Can we all just get this out in the open once and for all and acknowledge that terms (as they are most commonly used in this listserve) such as critical thinking, critical analysis, social change, social progress, social justice, and The Change Agent, are all ideologically based vehicles that assume that there is something inherently wrong with society as it exists in general (and with America's in particular) and that the remedy is an inherenly left-leaning, if not outright socialist or communist one.
I am tired of reading posts that dance around this issue, as if no one knows the names of the steps.
Literacy teachers should teach people to read, write, and speak. Learners should not have to be subjected to implicit or explicit political agendas from teachers who think they know better than others. In Steve's latest post (PD 4087) he very cogently unmasks the condescending nature of teaching "critical thinking," that there is an assumption that learners don't already think critically, or that they don't do it as well as the teacher. Or that students are in more dire need of "emancipatory change" than teachers are. I find it interesting that the Friere followers are so quick to abandon his leaderless classroom when it comes to critical thinking and pressing "social justice" issues.
It is my understanding that the methods for teaching people literacy skills went relatively unchanged over several millennia, and that these methods actually worked long before anyone heard of "praxis." I believe Marx, Lenin, and Darwin learned to read in this quaint, disparaged way.
I now await the barrage of comments from educators who will insist that rote memorization drills and vocabulary lists have oppressed me, and that I am but an oblivious political pawn.
In good spirits,
Kearney
Kearney_Lykins at yahoo.com
From: Federico Salas-Isnardi <fs_dos at yahoo.com>
To: The Adult Literacy Professional Development Discussion List <professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov>
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 8:23:06 AM
Subject: [PD 4085] On the meaning of politics and why teaching is political
Thank you, Janet for your contribution about politics. I would go one step further in arguing for a political education or political literacy: the word politics comes from Greek πολιτικός (politikόs) which simply means citizen, civil, of (or regarding) a citizen, and of (or regarding) citizenship. πολιτικός, in turn, comes from Greek πόλις (pόlis) which means city or inhabited territory or island.
Thus, everytime we engage students/adults/citizens we are engaging in a political activity. We cannot ignore that when we deal with the inhabitants (I don't want to use the word citizens in this context) of any territory we are dealing with the nature of politics.
Some people (and some politicians) give politics a bad name, but the fact remains that politics is everything we do that involves us as citizens of this nation. As you said, nobody is advocating to engage our students in a specific end of the political spectrum but rather that we should accept our political role as teachers and facilitators or learning which is to engage our students to the extent possible in a critical analysis of what they learn or they are confronted with. Otherwise we are giving our students only data to deposit in their "bank" which may never be useful to them.
federico
Federico Salas-Isnardi
Adult Literacy Specialist, Texas Center for the Advancement of Literacy and Learning
Secretary, Executive Board, Association of Adult Literacy Professional Developers
Adult Education Consultant, Houston, Texas
"The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long but it Bends toward Justice." Martin Luther King
From: Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at brown.edu>
To: The Adult Literacy Professional Development Discussion List <professionaldevelopment at nifl.gov>
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:50:27 AM
Subject: [PD 4080] Re: Swinging the Sword of Literacy in Iraq
Re: comments about Art's post, education in Iraq and the whole notion of political literacy.
Just looked up the word politics, but the definition kept using the word "political"
so then I looked that up:
po·liti·cal (pə lit′i kəl)
adjective
of or concerned with government, the state, or politics
having a definite governmental organization
engaged in or taking sides in politics political parties
of or characteristic of political parties or politicians political pressure
http://www.yourdictionary.com/political
so now, to reply, simply, to those who believe we shouldn't impose a particular set of political beliefs:
NO ONE here has said we should. Art has spoken eloquently to addressing the skills, knowledge and strategies needed to understand how government works and to enable adults to make choices (and/or support them in making choices) that best suit their own interests and beliefs. NO ONE is advocating for any one system, or set of beliefs. No one is using the adult learning center as a soap box. Good educators are listening to learners, living in shared communities, discussing what goes on and using language and learning skills, critical thinking, healthy debate, use of media and other resources, to enable everyone to get on as well as they can in the communities in which they live.
Janet Isserlis
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