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color=#0000ff>Hello all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>I am knew to this listserve, but have been in the technology group
for a while... my question relates to, "Find out where they are, as each
adult learner is at a different place in their learning, and help
<STRONG>them</STRONG> find ways that <STRONG>work for them</STRONG> to get them
where they need to go."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Have any programs or instructors used Service Learning
(SL) in their programs? SL is the idea of creating
learning tasks set up around a Service Project, i.e. using problem solving
skills to figure out how much paint would be needed to paint a flood wall,
applying to the municipality to paint the floodwall, and then doing the
project.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Would SL help students find ways to make education work for and be
usable to them? Would service learning also help as a bridge in
making the needs for UD more apparent to not only instructors and students but
the community as well?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>And once again, have any of you done SL, and what is your critical
view?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Barry Burkett,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=721533516-10122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Frankfort, KY</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> professionaldevelopment-bounces@nifl.gov
[mailto:professionaldevelopment-bounces@nifl.gov] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Grace
Temple<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 10, 2007 9:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> The Adult
Literacy Professional Development Discussion List<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[ProfessionalDevelopment 1794] Re: itunes u<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>For someone who says that they are not where everyone else is yet, I
find that you are way ahead in instinct, Jeff. If we are to reach adults
struggling to learn and get ahead, we have to stop looking for a magic bullet or
secret formula that will make it all just fall into place for them. The
most important thing to remember is just what Jeff has said he does - Find
out where there are, as each adult learner is at a different place in their
learning, and help <STRONG>them</STRONG> find ways that <STRONG>work for
them</STRONG> to get them where they need to go. There is no "one size
fits all" and there's no one program, strategy, or method that will work for
everyone. We need to take the time (which none of us have enough of) to
sit with them individually and find out what they need. The best thing we
can do for our students is to arm ourselves with as many methods and ideas as
possible as we never know which one we'll need to pull out to assist a
particular student. Research, read, use the web, attend as many inovative
trainings and workshops as possible, and network with others just like you who
are creatively making their own way in the class rooms. I've found that
some of the best ideas that really work, were from those creative individuals in
the classroom who didn't have what was needed so they came up with their
own.<BR><BR><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" size=4><EM>Grace
Temple,Director,</EM></FONT><BR><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive"
size=4><EM> </EM><FONT face="Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif" size=3>Sanilac
Literacy Council<BR></FONT></FONT><A
href="mailto:templege@hotmail.com">templege@hotmail.com</A><BR> <BR><BR>>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:00:47 -0400<BR>> From: alphact@eastlink.ca<BR>>
To: professionaldevelopment@nifl.gov<BR>> Subject: [ProfessionalDevelopment
1792] Re: itunes u<BR>> <BR>> Hi Nadia and everyone,<BR>> <BR>>
Excellent comments and thoughts. Computers will play a role in how we<BR>>
educate, but for many of the people we help educate, they will have to
learn<BR>> basic computer skills as well as GED and such. <BR>> <BR>>
As I instruct others, I am becoming aware that teaching is knowing more
than<BR>> "the how", it is the understanding of how each student learns and
their<BR>> motives for learning. As an instructor/teacher, I look for
knowledge that<BR>> will help me teach others where they are at. What nugget
can I learn that<BR>> will help my next student move onward. I humbly must
say that I am not at<BR>> where most of you appear to be in knowledge or
education wise. For people<BR>> like us, having access to this type of
material that you are discussing<BR>> would be a great asset. <BR>>
<BR>> Yet I fear that time is against us since there is only so much each
day. My<BR>> Grandfather once said..."Talk is cheap, it takes money to buy
rum." I hope<BR>> through this discussion that those that can will make a
real effort to<BR>> provide training for those of us that help others learn.
I pray that there<BR>> will be money to help us develop those materials that
are needed... to help<BR>> us help others. I really hope that we will all
matter in the lives of those<BR>> people we touch.<BR>> <BR>> Regards
to all,<BR>> <BR>> Jeff Brown<BR>> Alpha Computer Training and
Consulting<BR>> www.alphacomputer.ca<BR>> info@alphacomputer.ca<BR>>
<BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
professionaldevelopment-bounces@nifl.gov<BR>>
[mailto:professionaldevelopment-bounces@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Nadia and<BR>>
Kevin Colby<BR>> Sent: December-09-07 1:46 PM<BR>> To: The Adult Literacy
Professional Development Discussion List<BR>> Subject:
[ProfessionalDevelopment 1791] Re: itunes u<BR>> <BR>> Thank you for the
resource, David. I really think this<BR>> is a wonderful way to access higher
education services<BR>> that ultimately will help our students. Talking
again<BR>> about professional development and professional wisdom<BR>> and
the difficulty both to define and measure the<BR>> latter term I would like
to add the following. I<BR>> wholeheartedly agree with Mev from WE LEARN in
terms<BR>> of the political and social issues that frame adult<BR>>
education and that we as adult educators have the<BR>> responsibility to be
informed about. My comments are<BR>> written with the outmost respect for all
the people<BR>> that read this list. That being said I think that in<BR>>
order to better help our students and being aware of<BR>> all the challenges
they face (which at times are<BR>> similar to ours since we live in a world
where<BR>> everything, including knowledge, is a commodity) we<BR>> can
use serious research in cognition. As Universal<BR>> Design has been applied
to the standards I have a<BR>> question for those who do research regarding
this<BR>> "method" (is it a method, a philosophy, sorry, I<BR>> honestly
don't know how to define UD). What is the<BR>> relationship between UD and
recent research in<BR>> cognition in first and second language acquisition?
<BR>> For example, will UD inform me about the relationship<BR>> between
the lenght of a sentence, the salience of the<BR>> targeted linguistic item
of the lesson, the potential<BR>> problems connected to form (say inflections
for<BR>> singular third person) and meaning, short term memory<BR>>
limitations, and the performance of my students? I am<BR>> thinking about a
population whose level of English is<BR>> oftentimes 0 when I start working
with them. And who,<BR>> as you all know, may be illiterate,
functionally<BR>> illiterate, or literate in languages whose symbols
I<BR>> know nothing about. <BR>> We, as adult educators need quality
courses in<BR>> cognition. We don't need to be experts because then<BR>>
we would be doing mostly research instead of teaching<BR>> our students, but
surely understanding some of the<BR>> components that pertain to second
language acquisition<BR>> in a way that allows us to use them in the
classroom<BR>> will be a great step ahead for ESL teachers.<BR>> <BR>>
Take these comments from someone that is both learning<BR>> to love
linguistics and adjusting to being humbled by<BR>> the difficulty posed by
research in language<BR>> acquisition<BR>> <BR>> Nadia
Quiroz-Colby<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- "David J. Rosen"
<djrosen@comcast.net> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Technology and
Professional Development Colleagues,<BR>> > <BR>> > itunes -- the
Apple online music store -- now has a<BR>> > new area offering <BR>>
> free university and college lectures and other<BR>> > education
<BR>> > presentations. It is called itunes university or<BR>> >
itunes u.<BR>> > <BR>> >
http://www.apple.com/education/itunesu/<BR>> > <BR>> > If you have a
look, consider the following:<BR>> > <BR>> > 1. Is there anything
there that would be useful to<BR>> > adult secondary <BR>> >
education classes (GED, EDP, ADP, or College<BR>> > Transiton) for
<BR>> > introducing their students to college? If so, what?<BR>> >
<BR>> > 2. Would it be useful to have a new category on<BR>> >
itunes u, under <BR>> > "Beyond Universities" for Teacher Training
or<BR>> > Teacher Improvement . <BR>> > (For example we now have
links to over 30 free,<BR>> > short adult ed <BR>> > classroom
videos on the MLoTS Web site [ <BR>> > www.mlots.org ]. Itunes u <BR>>
> might include those as well as other kinds of<BR>> > professional
<BR>> > development videos and slide shows. Would it be<BR>> >
worthwhile for me to <BR>> > ask itunes u to set this up? If they did,
would you<BR>> > use it?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > David J.
Rosen<BR>> > djrosen@comcast.net<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
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