I share your concern Tina. The intense interactivity of the sounds and images of the latest games make them an overwhelming experience that can take the player into another world. While there may be advantages to this, when we teach, we teach things that are of this world. Perhaps it is not so cut and dry. I mean the human-created digital world, versus the natural world we walk around in. Reality can easily blur, which is why many kids have turned violent in immitation of popular video games that they played. None of the educational games I have been exposed to do have any violence, but do you think they risk a disconnection or a disinterest in reality?

Craig

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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tina_Luffman at yc.edu 
  To: The Technology and Literacy Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:14 AM
  Subject: [Technology 708] Re: handhelds and cell phones


  Hi everyone,

  I guess my biggest concern about using games for educational purposes is the addiction of some like War Quest. Yet, we need to be open to exploring those games that provide academic stimulus for our electronic younger population.

  Tina





  Tina Luffman
  Coordinator, Developmental Education
  Verde Valley Campus
  928-634-6544
  tina_luffman at yc.edu



  -----technology-bounces at nifl.gov wrote: -----


    To: <technology at nifl.gov>
    From: "Steve Quann" <steve_quann at worlded.org>
    Sent by: technology-bounces at nifl.gov
    Date: 11/16/2006 08:38AM
    Subject: [Technology 705] Re: handhelds and cell phones

    Thank you Tina, Susan, and David:

    So what do other folks on the list think? Does this have legs? I think
    most us see that there might be potential here, but what are the
    drawbacks? The one I hear most is the size/viewing issue -mostly from
    non-users. But I have to say as I walked down the aisle of the train
    this a.m. and saw someone viewing a video on an Ipod, it looked pretty
    clear and manageable to me. 




    Steve Quann
    World Education
    44 Farnsworth Street
    Boston, MA 
    617.482.9485


    >>> <Tina_Luffman at yc.edu> 11/15/2006 12:45 PM >>>
    Hi everyone,

    Steck Vaughn has come out with a handheld GED Study Buddy. This tool
    looks interesting for the new generation of students who are so geared
    to play with Game Boys and other video game units. These handhelds use
    cartridges for the 5 subjects of the GED exam. The cost is not cheap*,
    but if a program has money, I am sure these little units will engage
    younger students more than books. I have not seen any of these Study
    Buddies other than in the catalog, so I cannot comment on the content.

    *399/device, 50/cartridge
    Thanks,

    Tina





    Tina Luffman
    Coordinator, Developmental Education
    Verde Valley Campus
    928-634-6544
    tina_luffman at yc.edu 


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    To: "The Technology and Literacy Discussion List"
    <technology at nifl.gov>
    From: "Mariann Fedele" <MariannF at lacnyc.org>
    Sent by: technology-bounces at nifl.gov 
    Date: 11/14/2006 09:32PM
    Subject: [Technology 700] handhelds and cell phones

    Hi Steve and all, 


    Great question, although using handhelds is a promising practice I
    haven't heard of examples of them in the adult literacy field. 
    Does anyone on the list have experience using handhelds for instruction
    with adult literacy students, with other student populations? 

    Regards, 
    Mariann 


    From: technology-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Steve Quann 
    Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 8:43 PM 
    To: technology at nifl.gov 
    Subject: [Technology 698] Re: Video games and education 



    Hi Marian, 
    This makes me think of asking if you or anyone on the list know if 
    anyone is doing anything with handhelds, cellphones games or not. I
    know 
    David Rosen posted a site from England that was. Any signs of it in the

    adult literacy field? 
    Steve Quann 
    World Education 

    >>> "Marian Thacher" <mthacher at otan.us> 11/13/06 11:52 AM >>> 
    I wanted to share this exchange from the California adult ed tech
    mentor 
    list, as I'm wondering if others are using or thinking about using
    video 
    games and web sites like Second Life in instruction. 

    Marian Thacher 
    Outreach and Technical Assistance Network 
    P.O. Box 269003 
    Sacramento, CA 95826-9003 
    (916) 228-2597 
    www.otan.us 
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
    In response to "merging games with learning", there is a website ([ 
    http://www.brainmeld.org]www.brainmeld.org) in which one of my 
    professors 
    from National University runs. It contains teacher guides to using 
    certain 
    games in the classroom. These guides contain state standards, goals and

    objectives to using the games. My professor has published the teachers'

    guide that I wrote for high school Economics. It's called "Create the 
    Empire of your Dreams". There are teacher guides for younger students
    as 
    well. 
    I thought some of you would enjoy looking through this website. 

    Ronda Rafidi 

    Marian Thacher <mthacher at otan.us> wrote: 

     
    Has anyone played around with Second Life [[ http://secondlife.com/
    ] http://secondlife.com/]? It's a virtual world, totally constructed
    by 
    the 
    "residents." Talk about social networking sites! I haven't really used

    it, 
    and I don't have time to figure out how to build a bunch of 3D stuff, 
    but 
    it sounds like great fun if you have time, and I've been watching for 
    educational applications, so if you're interested in such things, here

    is 
    an article about a couple of education organizations that are actually

    doing things like holding a virtual summer camp on a private island in

    Second Life! 

    The School of Second Life 
    By Wagner James Au 

    For those who grew up on computer and video games over the past thirty

    years, it's no surprise that games have become a full-fledged 
    educational 
    tool, merging play with learning in a way that speaks to the digital 
    generation's technical literacy. Adding heft to this development, the 
    Federation of American Scientists recently published the results of a 
    year-long study suggesting that games have the power to teach
    analytical 
    skills, team building, and problem solving on the fly. 

    Among the most powerful platforms for game-based teaching is Second 
    Life, 
    a virtual world superficially similar to online role-playing games such

    as 
    World of Warcraft or Sims Online but embedded with numerous features 
    that 
    can make it an ideal pedagogical resource. 

    Read the article at [ http://www.edutopia.org/1709
    ] http://www.edutopia.org/1709


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