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[Technology 1607] Re: Access to PDF text
Jeanette Schandelmeier
Jeanette.Schandelmeier at lposd.orgThu Apr 10 16:34:12 EDT 2008
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Adobe Reader has accessibility built in, in the form of a text reader -
under "View".
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On Behalf Of Jenner, Cathy
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:30 AM
To: The Technology and Literacy Discussion List
Cc: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List
Subject: [Technology 1606] Re: Access to text, a social justice issue
In our UDL project, we have placed Assistive Technology in several
classrooms and in our libraries and Student Success Center. We also
train all our peer tutors on using AT. Our goal is to have students see
AT as "just another tool" like a calculator.
We have recently worked out a deal with our library to lend out two
tools: a mobile notetaker from Pegasus and also Keys To Access which
has several applications on a flash drive. Any student can get these
from the Library for home use. We have found screen reader to be very
useful, but there is some work that goes along with them. Not all
screen readers work with all programs, for instance PDFs, Powerpoints,
etc.
We find we usually have to train students on a combination of reading
with physical masking and using screen readers. We have not studied the
direct impact of ONLY using AT with students, but both instructors and
students continue to ask for AT, so it appears likely to be helping.
In case you are thinking, "that's nice but we have no money", there are
LOTS of free or very low cost technologies available.
Cathy Jenner, Project Coordinator
Universal Design for Learning Project
Instructional Improvement
Renton Technical College
(425) 235-2352 x5639
cjenner at rtc.edu
http://www.rtc.edu/AboutUs/DSDPGrant/
http://webs.rtc.edu/ii/dsdp.html
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On Behalf Of David J. Rosen
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:04 AM
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Subject: [Technology 1604] Re: Access to text, a social justice issue
Technology Discussion List Colleagues,
Thanks to Joan Medlen for her thoughts and suggestions (see her posting
below).
Let's continue talking about assistive technology and universal design
products for adults who have difficulty reading -- both the technologies
that can help adults improve their reading skills and technologies that
can provide access (by reading it out loud) to text that would
otherwise be inaccessible to them. I wonder if those on this discussion
list have experience with using these products themselves or with their
students. I would like to hear about those experiences.
What difference(s) does assistive technology or universal design for
learning make for adult learners, and for adults who cannot read but can
get meaning from text if it is read out loud?
I am also cross posting this on the Learning Disabilities discussion
list to invite those who subscribe to that list to join the discussion
here. I believe some of our colleagues in that discussion forum have a
great deal of experience to share. [ To join the Technology List
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So, to continue the discussion, another screen reader that may be useful
is:
The CAST Ereader (now replaced by AspireREADER for PCs).
http://cast.org/products/ereader/index.html
I wonder if anyone on this discussion list uses these products that Joan
Medlen and I mentioned, and if so, what you find as their strengths and
weaknesses. Are there other products that you use and like better, and
if so, why?
Another example, a text reader, the Reading Pen
http://www.readingpen.com/
scans, defines, and pronounces words from printed material. You just run
the pen over the line of text and listen to the text being read out loud
through a speaker or through tiny headphones. There is a version
designed for adults. Its cost is under $300. Anyone here have experience
using it? Know any adult learners who use it? What are its advantages
and disadvantages?
David J. Rosen
djrosen at comcast.net
On Apr 6, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Joan Medlen wrote:
HI all,
It may be called a "text reader," but for computers, is often called a
"screen reader." They all have their good points and not so great
points,
but the premise of having things read to assist with learning is one
that
is commonly used with kids in special education programs. There are a
number of reading programs that highlight the words as the program reads
the text as well.
Some vendors text readers include:
Don Johnston, Inc. http://www.donjohnston.com/
Intellitools: http://www.intellitools.com
These are, of course, primarily designed for school-aged children, but
look
closely for the tools that may be able to do what you want for adults.
Write:Outloud and Read: OutLoud are likely the programs that make the
most
sense and are very versatile - they operate within or like a word
processor. I know a lot of people who use them who have learning
disabilities. They are also electronically based.
I do know there are text readers that can read printed text, but I
can't,
for the life of me, remember the name of the one I have seen or find one
quickly while writing this. They do exist - look in tools for people who
are blind and visually impaired.
There are many different screen readers for computers while surving the
web
and doing email. Some of the more common are
JAWS:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws.asp
(expensive)
One that I downloaded to use for a demonstration was free and very easy
to
use is:
http://www.screenreader.net/
As for the understandability of the more formal language often used in
pamphlets and books, I would imagine it depends on the target audience.
I
believe there are many people who are very comfortable with formal
language, but cannot read as well as those who will need the less formal
approach. But being able to hear information - even if the language
still
needs to be decoded - is better than not being able to access the
information at all!
If you have access to a search engine that can scour education journals,
I
would recommend a lit search for use of text readers, text-to-speech,
and
so on in journals for special education. This is a huge area for the
folks
in assistive technology and augmentative communication. I'm sure there
are
articles that can lay the groundwork or be generalized for further
studies
with people who do not have "disabiltiies."
Last, for the social justice piece, I submit two pieces that I like a
great
deal:
1. The Literacy Bill of Rights: Yoder, D.E., Erickson, K.A. and
Koppenhaver, D.A., Center for Literacy and DisabilityStudies, P.O. BOX
3888, DUMC, Durham, NC
27710 http://dsasdonline.org/admin/files/AT-Literacy.pdf
and
2. The Communication Bill of RIghts:
http://www.asha.org/NJC/bill_of_rights.htm from the National Joint
Committee for the Communication needs of people with severe
disabilities.
Take care,
Joan
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Joan E Guthrie Medlen, R.D., L.D.
Clinical Advisor, Health Literacy & Communications
Special Olympics Healthy Athletes
joan at DownSyndromeNutrition.com
At 03:59 AM 4/6/2008, you wrote:
Hello Len,
This is Glenn Young's idea, not mine, although I think it has
merit
and should be tested. As I understand it, the idea is to help
adults who
need it to get access to information by providing text readers,
not
by changing the text. A text reader -- as I am using the the
term --
is a piece of software that reads printed or digital text out
loud.
In many versions of this kind of software the rate can easily be
controlled by the user; in some there are tools that allow the
user
just to hear a difficult word here and there, or a word at a
time, or
a sentence at a time or a paragraph at a time.
David J. Rosen
djrosen at comcast.net.
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