I agree. However, I also know that if women are sitting together in a group, someone may come over and say "ladies...." Not all women consider themselves ladies, or like to be addressed this way. Has anyone addressed this issue with adult literacy learners?


>>> cubans at seattleu.edu 11/10/2005 4:11:40 PM >>>

Daphne, if I am unsure, and do not know people,  I always ask them what they like to be called, before addressing them. I think this encourages open communication, at the get-go, and is culturally sensitive. If there are no, or few opportunities to ask, or, if my question goes unanswered, I usually err on the formal side (and some cultural knowledge about what is "formal" should be known by the communicator). That's my 2 cents. Sondra


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> On the professional development listserv, there was a posting that I thought may be of interest on this listserv. After you read the message I copied from Jim, I am wondering if any of you have any thoughts about this, and how our female students like to be addressed. Here is the posting:

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> At my school, some women do not like being referred to as "ladies," saying the "title" puts undue societal pressure on them to behave a certain way. In the 70's we learned that many traditional expressions pointing to femaleness were unacceptable. Many, such as "Honey," "Babe," and "Darlin'," showed a certain amount of familiarity and disrespect. I have even received disapproving feedback from a woman after saying "Yes, Ma'am." My grandmother would roll over in her grave at the thought of my not responding to a woman with a one-time courteous "Yes (or No) Ma'am." I would appreciate any assistance  anyone can give me in determining the appropriate appellation or reference to the women of today. As I have three daughters, I certainly have no wish to offend to them or any woman.

> 	Why many men seem to be happy being referred to as "guys," or even "dudes," and so forth, while we are apparently having trouble zeroing in on a proper set of references to women, I don't know. I know that, just because terms were appropriate for many years and eras, it doesn't mean they should remain appropriate. 

> 	Jim

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> Daphne Greenberg

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> Daphne Greenberg

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> Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> Georgia State University

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