I, too, agree that the merging of the list is not in the best interest of the list users or those they serve.  Clearly, there is some overlap, but I believe that each population has distinct needs and issues.  Merging the lists does seem to indicate that marginalized people should be thought of a unitary group.  Reminds me of the early days of the multicultural movement, where multicultural was often the catch-all phrase for those other than the dominant group.  Also, I fear that the amount of information being delivered through this new pipeline will be unwieldy and overwhelming to both list managers and consumers.  
   
  I also wonder about the motivation for the merger and wonder if list users were consulted and polled beforehand.  While I understand that some lists are more active than others, I would argue that as long as a list is serving the needs of its subscribers and is being used on a regular basis, as are both of the lists in question, then it is valuable.
   
  Lastly, I wonder if there is potential to reverse this decision and what collective action would be needed to pursue a reversal.
   
  Audrey Ambrosino
  Graduate Student, Educational Psychology Doctoral Program
  Georgia State University
   
  

Barbara Petersohn <libbsp at langate.gsu.edu> wrote: 
  I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual lists for
these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their
current events awareness through discussion lists like these and want to
target specific topics. Consolidation of lists creates a flood of
off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.

Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists,
it's just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or
professional interests, one also also has to spend time to reviewing and
deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant. 

Oh well...
Barbara Petersohn


>>> "Laurie Sheridan" 10/23/2006 9:13 AM

>>>

I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed
disappointment) about this. Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,
Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me, kind of
a
catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and
poverty and race aren't ONLY about women. Well, I'll say it--it
sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks,
lumping
them all together. I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different
voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women), and in
talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is
considerable.
Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge
them based on overlap there? I am trying to be optimistic that this
will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but
something is also going to be lost in the translation. 

I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least
much of the focus on women, though. And also on poverty and race! It
just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be
meaningful on both fronts.

Laurie Sheridan


>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>

I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list
closed. A bit shortsighted to that, and whilst I am
aware that it's women who are the victims of poverty,
merging the two lists will only confuse the issues
further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy
List elsewhere? 
Ujwala

--- Janet Isserlis wrote:


> this is the response I'd sent to the content

> standards and English language

> lists;

> apologies for the cross posting for some

> 

> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other

> substantive reasons for

> eliminating these two lists? While their content

> *may* overlap, at times,

> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful

> information particular

> to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to

> various other lists.

> 

> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being

> eliminated.

> 

> Janet Isserlis

> 

> 

> 

> From: Bertha Mo 

> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List

> 

> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)

> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List

> 

> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and

> Literacy list

> 

> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different

> folks subscribe to a list

> that is women focused. I'm pretty shy about

> responding to most lists. And

> I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've

> received from you and

> others on the list.

> 

> Best,

> 

> Bertie

> 

> Daphne Greenberg wrote:

> > I am wondering how people on this list feel about

> the merging of the

> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,

> and Literacy list? Any

> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?

> Excitement?

> > Daphne

> > 

> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh" 10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>

> > Dear Discussion List subscribers,

> > 

> > As the National Institute for Literacy enters a

> new fiscal year,

> > we

> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver

> professional

> > development

> > to our discussion list members. A major change

> that will directly affect

> > you

> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy

> List with the Women and

> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.

> > 

> > We will continue to provide access to discussion

> archives on our

> > website.

> > 

> > We have chosen to combine the two lists because

> we recognize

> > that

> > many of the issues that impact one group also

> affect the other group,

> > and

> > believe that many of the topics discussed on one

> list can

> > benefit

> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to

> combine the lists to

> > enhance

> > list members access to the latest ideas and

> information

> > available.

> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is

> most both practical

> > and

> > appropriate to have them intersect on one

> combined list.

> > 

> > We know that many members of our two lists,

> especially members

> > of

> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens

> where issues can be

> > raised

> > and discussed. We want you to know that we will

> continue to

> > respect

> > your input and will maintain the same high level

> of sensitivity and

> > respect

> > we have always shown our list members. In

> combining the two

> > lists,

> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for

> the new combined list.

> > Her

> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her

> to moderate the women's

> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and

> insight that is necessary

> > for

> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the

> responsibility of the new

> > list, she will bring the same balance to the 

> Poverty, Race, Women, and

> > Literacy list. 

> > 

> > The Institute will be inviting current

> subscribers for both the

> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and

> Literacy List to the new

> > combined

> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List. Once you

> receive the

> > invitation, you will need to confirm your

> subscription to the Poverty,

> > Race, Women and Literacy List.

> > 

> > We encourage you to be an active participant in

> the new list by

> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the

> Poverty, Race, Women

> > and

> > Literacy List a dynamic resource for information

> and

> > professional

> > development. 

> > 

> > My Linh Nguyen

> > Associate Director of Communications

> > National Institute for Literacy

> > (202) 233-2041

> > fax (202) 233-2050

> > mnguyen at nifl.gov 

> > 

> >

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