I agree Audrey..
And I wonder why 'Women literacy' with 'Poverty, Race' why not 'health literacy' and Poverty, Race?
I also know that Dr Greenberg will do an excellent job in monitoring 
Sandra Jackson

Audrey Ambrosino <audrey at dresdenflats.org> wrote:


>I, too, agree that the merging of the list is not in the best interest of the list users or those they serve.  Clearly, there is some overlap, but I believe that each population has distinct needs and issues.  Merging the lists does seem to indicate that marginalized people should be thought of a unitary group.  Reminds me of the early days of the multicultural movement, where multicultural was often the catch-all phrase for those other than the dominant group.  Also, I fear that the amount of information being delivered through this new pipeline will be unwieldy and overwhelming to both list managers and consumers.

>

>  I also wonder about the motivation for the merger and wonder if list users were consulted and polled beforehand.  While I understand that some lists are more active than others, I would argue that as long as a list is serving the needs of its subscribers and is being used on a regular basis, as are both of the lists in question, then it is valuable.

>

>  Lastly, I wonder if there is potential to reverse this decision and what collective action would be needed to pursue a reversal.

>

>  Audrey Ambrosino

>  Graduate Student, Educational Psychology Doctoral Program

>  Georgia State University

>

>

>

>Barbara Petersohn <libbsp at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:

>  I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual lists for

>these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their

>current events awareness through discussion lists like these and want to

>target specific topics. Consolidation of lists creates a flood of

>off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.

>

>Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists,

>it's just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or

>professional interests, one also also has to spend time to reviewing and

>deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant.

>

>Oh well...

>Barbara Petersohn

>

>>>> "Laurie Sheridan" 10/23/2006 9:13 AM

>>>>

>I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed

>disappointment) about this. Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,

>Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me, kind of

>a

>catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and

>poverty and race aren't ONLY about women. Well, I'll say it--it

>sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks,

>lumping

>them all together. I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different

>voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women), and in

>talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is

>considerable.

>Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge

>them based on overlap there? I am trying to be optimistic that this

>will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but

>something is also going to be lost in the translation.

>

>I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least

>much of the focus on women, though. And also on poverty and race! It

>just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be

>meaningful on both fronts.

>

>Laurie Sheridan

>

>>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>

>I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list

>closed. A bit shortsighted to that, and whilst I am

>aware that it's women who are the victims of poverty,

>merging the two lists will only confuse the issues

>further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy

>List elsewhere?

>Ujwala

>

>--- Janet Isserlis wrote:

>

>> this is the response I'd sent to the content

>> standards and English language

>> lists;

>> apologies for the cross posting for some

>>

>> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other

>> substantive reasons for

>> eliminating these two lists? While their content

>> *may* overlap, at times,

>> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful

>> information particular

>> to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to

>> various other lists.

>>

>> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being

>> eliminated.

>>

>> Janet Isserlis

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Bertha Mo

>> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List

>>

>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)

>> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List

>>

>> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and

>> Literacy list

>>

>> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different

>> folks subscribe to a list

>> that is women focused. I'm pretty shy about

>> responding to most lists. And

>> I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've

>> received from you and

>> others on the list.

>>

>> Best,

>>

>> Bertie

>>

>> Daphne Greenberg wrote:

>> > I am wondering how people on this list feel about

>> the merging of the

>> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,

>> and Literacy list? Any

>> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?

>> Excitement?

>> > Daphne

>> >

>> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh" 10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>

>> > Dear Discussion List subscribers,

>> >

>> > As the National Institute for Literacy enters a

>> new fiscal year,

>> > we

>> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver

>> professional

>> > development

>> > to our discussion list members. A major change

>> that will directly affect

>> > you

>> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy

>> List with the Women and

>> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.

>> >

>> > We will continue to provide access to discussion

>> archives on our

>> > website.

>> >

>> > We have chosen to combine the two lists because

>> we recognize

>> > that

>> > many of the issues that impact one group also

>> affect the other group,

>> > and

>> > believe that many of the topics discussed on one

>> list can

>> > benefit

>> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to

>> combine the lists to

>> > enhance

>> > list members access to the latest ideas and

>> information

>> > available.

>> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is

>> most both practical

>> > and

>> > appropriate to have them intersect on one

>> combined list.

>> >

>> > We know that many members of our two lists,

>> especially members

>> > of

>> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens

>> where issues can be

>> > raised

>> > and discussed. We want you to know that we will

>> continue to

>> > respect

>> > your input and will maintain the same high level

>> of sensitivity and

>> > respect

>> > we have always shown our list members. In

>> combining the two

>> > lists,

>> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for

>> the new combined list.

>> > Her

>> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her

>> to moderate the women's

>> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and

>> insight that is necessary

>> > for

>> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the

>> responsibility of the new

>> > list, she will bring the same balance to the

>> Poverty, Race, Women, and

>> > Literacy list.

>> >

>> > The Institute will be inviting current

>> subscribers for both the

>> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and

>> Literacy List to the new

>> > combined

>> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List. Once you

>> receive the

>> > invitation, you will need to confirm your

>> subscription to the Poverty,

>> > Race, Women and Literacy List.

>> >

>> > We encourage you to be an active participant in

>> the new list by

>> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the

>> Poverty, Race, Women

>> > and

>> > Literacy List a dynamic resource for information

>> and

>> > professional

>> > development.

>> >

>> > My Linh Nguyen

>> > Associate Director of Communications

>> > National Institute for Literacy

>> > (202) 233-2041

>> > fax (202) 233-2050

>> > mnguyen at nifl.gov

>> >

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