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kay alameen
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Hello All,
in regards to the health care issue. I know of a program called Family Health
Plus. I am really not sure if it is just a New York State Program or a country
program, but it provides free or low cost insurance to families. I know that
just about everyone is eligible, but you pay according to income. Hope this
could be some help to someone.
Kay Alameen
Graduate Student, Buffalo State College
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:15:08 -0400
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> 1. [WomenLiteracy 617] Re: Health Insurance (Dora Johnson)
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:23:51 -0400
>From: "Dora Johnson" <dora at cal.org>
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 617] Re: Health Insurance
> To: "The Women and Literacy Discussion List" <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>
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> The Washington Post carried a column yesterday, October 21, 2006 by
> Michelle Singletary who usually has very good advice on personal
> finances. She lists several sources that might be consulted in looking
> around for health insurance, including buying your own. The URL is
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/21/AR200610
> 2100121_2.html. Title: Before you Get Sick, Shop Around.
>
> Dora Johnson
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov
> [mailto:womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Lynne Feinberg
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:24 AM
> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 614] Re: Health Insurance
>
>
> Thanks very much for your input about health insurance. No
> question about it - it's a very sad and screwed-up situation for many in
> this country. Again thanks.
> Lynne
>
>
> On 10/20/06, sandra_diehl at med.unc.edu <sandra_diehl at med.unc.edu>
> wrote:
>
> A few other suggestions to add to what has already been
> said:
>
> Many communities are served by a local United Way
> chapter. Local chapters create and maintain community resource
> directories, with information about health and human services that are
> available in the community, including low-cost and free services. If
> you call them, they should be able to send you a print directory or
> refer you to a local web directory.
>
> You may also want to contact private insurers and
> inquire about catastrophic-only coverage, which is more affordable and
> may help avoid the bankruptcy issue.
>
> If you've had insurance coverage recently through a
> former employer, you may be eligible for COBRA - which is likely to be
> expensive but at least offers continuous coverage and will help avoid
> pre-existing conditions exclusions.
>
> Finally, for anyone with children, all states offer
> child health insurance coverage for kids (ages 0-18). This program
> serves families who don' t qualify for Medicaid because their income
> exceeds eligibility requirements, but who cannot afford private
> insurance. Your local health department, community health center,
> department of social services, etc. should be able to provide more
> information about enrollment (it's often called SCHIP - State Children's
> Health Insurance Plan). Sandy
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Susan Hayden
> Date: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:41 am
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 605] Re: Health Insurance
> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>
> > Before you think of try the credit card idea, be sure
> to check
> > on the news laws for bankruptcy. The laws changed in
> early
> > 2006, and it is not as easy to file a Chapter 7 which
> allows
> > your bills to "go away".
> > Local health care clinics will be your best bet for a
> mammogram,
> > call your state's department of health for locations
> and various
> > programs. Hospitals on the payment plan will take care
> of x-
> > rays and other emergencies, just be prepared for a
> long wait.
> > Good luck. The sad reality is the American health care
> system
> > is failing miserably for all of us.
> > Susan Hayden
> > Adult Services Library Consultant
> > West Virginia Library Commission
> > 1900 Kanawha BLVD, East
> > Charleston, WV 25305
> > haydens at wvlc.lib.wv.us
> > 304-558-3978, ext. 2014
> > FAX: 304-558-1612
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bertha Mo
> > To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:59 PM
> > Subject: [WomenLiteracy 601] Re: Health Insurance
> >
> >
> > I used to live in San Francisco and an organization
> called
> > Public Media that was housed at Fort Mason permitted
> people such
> > as yourself to sign onto their Kaiser Plan. In many
> areas, I
> > was just working in Upstate NY, local groups organized
> a free
> > mamography program for low income folks. I think you
> need a
> > mamogram every other year if you don't have symptoms
> or family
> > history.
> > If you have an accident the local emergency room will
> see you
> > and give you an x-ray and have you pay as you can.
> >
> > Bertie Mo
> >
>
> > "Muro, Andres" wrote:
> > Usually the county hospital or community health
> clinics will
> > provide these services. If you get injured, you are
> entitled to
> > go to an emergency room, get seen and then pay in
> installment.
> > If there is a county hospital, they will probably work
> with you
> > on reasonable payments, etc.
> >
> > For mammograms you can probably go to a local health
> clinic
> > for the indigent. Find the poor neighborhood in your
> community
> > and ask where the health clinic is. Sign up and you'll
> get seen.
> > They probably provide breast exams, pap smears,
> glucose tests,
> > CV screenings, etc. You may have to pay a fee.
> >
> > If you have an expensive disease, get a bunch or
> credit
> > cards. American express usually gives you a no limit
> account.
> > Spent them to the limit and declare bankruptcy.
> >
> > As far as free or inexpensive health insurance, there
> is no
> > such thing anymore, even for people in full time
> employment.
> > There are huge deductibles, for everything except
> primary care.
> >
> > Andres
> >
> >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> >
> > From: womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:
> womenliteracy- <mailto:womenliteracy->
> > bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Lynne Feinberg
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:01 PM
> > To: womenliteracy at nifl.gov
> > Subject: [WomenLiteracy 597] Health Insurance
> >
> > I have asked at the schools, I have contacted the
> union
> > (MCCC), I have contacted TESOL. I have Googled
> everything I can
> > think of Googling. I can't bring myself to believe
> that there
> > is nothing available, and I know I am not alone in
> this
> > situation. Does anyone have any ideas for a single,
> > hardworking, low-paid but otherwise not unhappy
> adjunct
> > community college ESL instructor seeking health
> insurance?
> > Something I can afford that will allow me to get a
> yearly
> > mammogram, and an x-ray in case I fall off my bicycle.
> Here's
> > hoping, and in the meantime feeling much too
> vulnerable.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Lynne Feinberg
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:08:41 -0400
>From: Sandyajackson at cs.com
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 618] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
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> I agree Audrey..
> And I wonder why 'Women literacy' with 'Poverty, Race' why not 'health
>literacy' and Poverty, Race?
> I also know that Dr Greenberg will do an excellent job in monitoring
> Sandra Jackson
>
> Audrey Ambrosino <audrey at dresdenflats.org> wrote:
>
>>I, too, agree that the merging of the list is not in the best interest of the
>>list users or those they serve. ?Clearly, there is some overlap, but I
>>believe that each population has distinct needs and issues. ?Merging the
>>lists does seem to indicate that marginalized people should be thought of a
>>unitary group. ?Reminds me of the early days of the multicultural movement,
>>where multicultural was often the catch-all phrase for those other than the
>>dominant group. ?Also, I fear that the amount of information being delivered
>>through this new pipeline will be unwieldy and overwhelming to both list
>>managers and consumers.
>>
>> ?I also wonder about the motivation for the merger and wonder if list users
>>were consulted and polled beforehand. ?While I understand that some lists are
>>more active than others, I would argue that as long as a list is serving the
>>needs of its subscribers and is being used on a regular basis, as are both of
>>the lists in question, then it is valuable.
>>
>> ?Lastly, I wonder if there is potential to reverse this decision and what
>>collective action would be needed to pursue a reversal.
>>
>> ?Audrey Ambrosino
>> ?Graduate Student, Educational Psychology Doctoral Program
>> ?Georgia State University
>>
>>
>>
>>Barbara Petersohn <libbsp at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:
>> ?I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual lists for
>>these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their
>>current events awareness through discussion lists like these and want to
>>target specific topics. Consolidation of lists creates a flood of
>>off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.
>>
>>Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists,
>>it's just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or
>>professional interests, one also also has to spend time to reviewing and
>>deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant.
>>
>>Oh well...
>>Barbara Petersohn
>>
>>>>> "Laurie Sheridan" 10/23/2006 9:13 AM
>>>>>
>>I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed
>>disappointment) about this. Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,
>>Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me, kind of
>>a
>>catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and
>>poverty and race aren't ONLY about women. Well, I'll say it--it
>>sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks,
>>lumping
>>them all together. I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different
>>voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women), and in
>>talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is
>>considerable.
>>Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge
>>them based on overlap there? I am trying to be optimistic that this
>>will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but
>>something is also going to be lost in the translation.
>>
>>I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least
>>much of the focus on women, though. And also on poverty and race! It
>>just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be
>>meaningful on both fronts.
>>
>>Laurie Sheridan
>>
>>>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>
>>I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list
>>closed. A bit shortsighted to that, and whilst I am
>>aware that it's women who are the victims of poverty,
>>merging the two lists will only confuse the issues
>>further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy
>>List elsewhere?
>>Ujwala
>>
>>--- Janet Isserlis wrote:
>>
>>> this is the response I'd sent to the content
>>> standards and English language
>>> lists;
>>> apologies for the cross posting for some
>>>
>>> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other
>>> substantive reasons for
>>> eliminating these two lists? While their content
>>> *may* overlap, at times,
>>> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful
>>> information particular
>>> to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to
>>> various other lists.
>>>
>>> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being
>>> eliminated.
>>>
>>> Janet Isserlis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bertha Mo
>>> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)
>>> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>>>
>>> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and
>>> Literacy list
>>>
>>> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different
>>> folks subscribe to a list
>>> that is women focused. I'm pretty shy about
>>> responding to most lists. And
>>> I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've
>>> received from you and
>>> others on the list.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Daphne Greenberg wrote:
>>> > I am wondering how people on this list feel about
>>> the merging of the
>>> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,
>>> and Literacy list? Any
>>> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?
>>> Excitement?
>>> > Daphne
>>> >
>>> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh" 10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>
>>> > Dear Discussion List subscribers,
>>> >
>>> > As the National Institute for Literacy enters a
>>> new fiscal year,
>>> > we
>>> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver
>>> professional
>>> > development
>>> > to our discussion list members. A major change
>>> that will directly affect
>>> > you
>>> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy
>>> List with the Women and
>>> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.
>>> >
>>> > We will continue to provide access to discussion
>>> archives on our
>>> > website.
>>> >
>>> > We have chosen to combine the two lists because
>>> we recognize
>>> > that
>>> > many of the issues that impact one group also
>>> affect the other group,
>>> > and
>>> > believe that many of the topics discussed on one
>>> list can
>>> > benefit
>>> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to
>>> combine the lists to
>>> > enhance
>>> > list members access to the latest ideas and
>>> information
>>> > available.
>>> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is
>>> most both practical
>>> > and
>>> > appropriate to have them intersect on one
>>> combined list.
>>> >
>>> > We know that many members of our two lists,
>>> especially members
>>> > of
>>> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens
>>> where issues can be
>>> > raised
>>> > and discussed. We want you to know that we will
>>> continue to
>>> > respect
>>> > your input and will maintain the same high level
>>> of sensitivity and
>>> > respect
>>> > we have always shown our list members. In
>>> combining the two
>>> > lists,
>>> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for
>>> the new combined list.
>>> > Her
>>> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her
>>> to moderate the women's
>>> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and
>>> insight that is necessary
>>> > for
>>> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the
>>> responsibility of the new
>>> > list, she will bring the same balance to the
>>> Poverty, Race, Women, and
>>> > Literacy list.
>>> >
>>> > The Institute will be inviting current
>>> subscribers for both the
>>> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and
>>> Literacy List to the new
>>> > combined
>>> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List. Once you
>>> receive the
>>> > invitation, you will need to confirm your
>>> subscription to the Poverty,
>>> > Race, Women and Literacy List.
>>> >
>>> > We encourage you to be an active participant in
>>> the new list by
>>> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the
>>> Poverty, Race, Women
>>> > and
>>> > Literacy List a dynamic resource for information
>>> and
>>> > professional
>>> > development.
>>> >
>>> > My Linh Nguyen
>>> > Associate Director of Communications
>>> > National Institute for Literacy
>>> > (202) 233-2041
>>> > fax (202) 233-2050
>>> > mnguyen at nifl.gov
>>> >
>>> >
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:48:11 -0400
>From: "Brian, Dr Donna J G" <djgbrian at utk.edu>
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 619] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
> To: "The Women and Literacy Discussion List" <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>
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> As a member of Daphne's list and as the current moderator of the
> Poverty, Race, and Literacy list, I have been following this discussion
> with much interest. I posed a similar query to my list to see their
> response, and they have not as yet expressed much concern about
> consolidating the lists. I also did the math and figured out that 41 %
> of my list are already current members of the Women and Literacy List,
> so maybe that is why Poverty/Race list members are not expressing many
> concerns. My own impression is that, with Daphne continuing as the
> moderator, we will still have her gentle ways of encouraging sharing and
> discussion, and I think she will be quite capable of extending her
> methods to the enlarged focus of the combined lists while still
> specifically encouraging discussion of issues which are primarily
> women's issues. I might be wrong, but I don't anticipate as much
> difference between the current Women and Literacy list and the new
> combined list as some of you seem to think might occur. I do think the
> current members of the Poverty, Race, and Literacy List will be
> sensitive and non-intimidating. And I think they will enjoy having
> Daphne as a moderator.
>
> Donna Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov
> [mailto:womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Barbara Petersohn
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:02 AM
> To: womenliteracy at nifl.gov
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 614] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
>
> I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual lists for
> these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their
> current events awareness through discussion lists like these and want to
> target specific topics. Consolidation of lists creates a flood of
> off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.
>
> Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists, it's
> just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or
> professional interests, one also also has to spend time to reviewing and
> deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant.
>
> Oh well...
> Barbara Petersohn
>
>>>> "Laurie Sheridan" <laurie_sheridan at worlded.org> 10/23/2006 9:13 AM
>>>>
> I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed
> disappointment) about this. Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,
> Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me, kind of a
> catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and
> poverty and race aren't ONLY about women. Well, I'll say it--it
> sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks, lumping
> them all together. I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different
> voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women), and in
> talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is considerable.
> Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge
> them based on overlap there? I am trying to be optimistic that this
> will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but
> something is also going to be lost in the translation.
>
> I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least
> much of the focus on women, though. And also on poverty and race! It
> just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be
> meaningful on both fronts.
>
> Laurie Sheridan
>
>>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>
> I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list closed. A bit
> shortsighted to that, and whilst I am aware that it's women who are the
> victims of poverty, merging the two lists will only confuse the issues
> further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy List elsewhere?
> Ujwala
>
> --- Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at brown.edu> wrote:
>
>> this is the response I'd sent to the content standards and English
>> language lists; apologies for the cross posting for some
>>
>> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other substantive reasons
>
>> for eliminating these two lists? While their content
>> *may* overlap, at times,
>> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful information
>> particular to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to various
>
>> other lists.
>>
>> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being eliminated.
>>
>> Janet Isserlis
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>> <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>
>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>
>> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
>>
>> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different folks subscribe to
>> a list that is women focused. I'm pretty shy about responding to
>> most lists. And I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've
>> received from you and others on the list.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>> Daphne Greenberg <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:
>> > I am wondering how people on this list feel about
>> the merging of the
>> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,
>> and Literacy list? Any
>> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?
>> Excitement?
>> > Daphne
>> >
>> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh" 10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>
>> > Dear Discussion List subscribers,
>> >
>> > As the National Institute for Literacy enters a
>> new fiscal year,
>> > we
>> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver
>> professional
>> > development
>> > to our discussion list members. A major change
>> that will directly affect
>> > you
>> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy
>> List with the Women and
>> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.
>> >
>> > We will continue to provide access to discussion
>> archives on our
>> > website.
>> >
>> > We have chosen to combine the two lists because
>> we recognize
>> > that
>> > many of the issues that impact one group also
>> affect the other group,
>> > and
>> > believe that many of the topics discussed on one
>> list can
>> > benefit
>> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to
>> combine the lists to
>> > enhance
>> > list members access to the latest ideas and
>> information
>> > available.
>> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is
>> most both practical
>> > and
>> > appropriate to have them intersect on one
>> combined list.
>> >
>> > We know that many members of our two lists,
>> especially members
>> > of
>> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens
>> where issues can be
>> > raised
>> > and discussed. We want you to know that we will
>> continue to
>> > respect
>> > your input and will maintain the same high level
>> of sensitivity and
>> > respect
>> > we have always shown our list members. In
>> combining the two
>> > lists,
>> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for
>> the new combined list.
>> > Her
>> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her
>> to moderate the women's
>> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and
>> insight that is necessary
>> > for
>> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the
>> responsibility of the new
>> > list, she will bring the same balance to the
>> Poverty, Race, Women, and
>> > Literacy list.
>> >
>> > The Institute will be inviting current
>> subscribers for both the
>> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and
>> Literacy List to the new
>> > combined
>> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List. Once you
>> receive the
>> > invitation, you will need to confirm your
>> subscription to the Poverty,
>> > Race, Women and Literacy List.
>> >
>> > We encourage you to be an active participant in
>> the new list by
>> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the
>> Poverty, Race, Women
>> > and
>> > Literacy List a dynamic resource for information
>> and
>> > professional
>> > development.
>> >
>> > My Linh Nguyen
>> > Associate Director of Communications National Institute for Literacy
>> > (202) 233-2041
>> > fax (202) 233-2050
>> > mnguyen at nifl.gov
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:34:42 -0400
>From: sjrhodes at tampabay.rr.com
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 620] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>
> Cc: womenliteracy at nifl.gov
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> It is time, in my opinion, to include lesbian women as a group of women, not
>necessarily based on race. I don't believe this would dilute the issues, but
>rather, be an inclusive discussion.
> What do you think?
> Shirley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Sandyajackson at cs.com
> Date: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:17 pm
> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 618] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list
> To: womenliteracy at nifl.gov (The Women and Literacy Discussion List)
>
>> I agree Audrey..
>> And I wonder why 'Women literacy' with 'Poverty, Race' why not
>> 'health literacy' and Poverty, Race?
>> I also know that Dr Greenberg will do an excellent job in
>> monitoring
>> Sandra Jackson
>>
>> Audrey Ambrosino <audrey at dresdenflats.org> wrote:
>>
>> >I, too, agree that the merging of the list is not in the best
>> interest of the list users or those they serve. Clearly, there is
>> some overlap, but I believe that each population has distinct
>> needs and issues. Merging the lists does seem to indicate that
>> marginalized people should be thought of a unitary group. Reminds
>> me of the early days of the multicultural movement, where
>> multicultural was often the catch-all phrase for those other than
>> the dominant group. Also, I fear that the amount of information
>> being delivered through this new pipeline will be unwieldy and
>> overwhelming to both list managers and consumers.
>> >
>> > I also wonder about the motivation for the merger and wonder if
>> list users were consulted and polled beforehand. While I
>> understand that some lists are more active than others, I would
>> argue that as long as a list is serving the needs of its
>> subscribers and is being used on a regular basis, as are both of
>> the lists in question, then it is valuable.
>> >
>> > Lastly, I wonder if there is potential to reverse this decision
>> and what collective action would be needed to pursue a reversal.
>> >
>> > Audrey Ambrosino
>> > Graduate Student, Educational Psychology Doctoral Program
>> > Georgia State University
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Barbara Petersohn <libbsp at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:
>> > I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual
>> lists for
>> >these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their
>> >current events awareness through discussion lists like these and
>> want to
>> >target specific topics. Consolidation of lists creates a flood of
>> >off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.
>> >
>> >Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists,
>> >it's just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or
>> >professional interests, one also also has to spend time to
>> reviewing and
>> >deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant.
>> >
>> >Oh well...
>> >Barbara Petersohn
>> >
>> >>>> "Laurie Sheridan" 10/23/2006 9:13 AM
>> >>>>
>> >I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed
>> >disappointment) about this. Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,
>> >Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me,
>> kind of
>> >a
>> >catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and
>> >poverty and race aren't ONLY about women. Well, I'll say it--it
>> >sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks,
>> >lumping
>> >them all together. I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different
>> >voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women),
>> and in
>> >talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is
>> >considerable.
>> >Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge
>> >them based on overlap there? I am trying to be optimistic that this
>> >will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but
>> >something is also going to be lost in the translation.
>> >
>> >I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least
>> >much of the focus on women, though. And also on poverty and race! It
>> >just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be
>> >meaningful on both fronts.
>> >
>> >Laurie Sheridan
>> >
>> >>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>
>> >I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list
>> >closed. A bit shortsighted to that, and whilst I am
>> >aware that it's women who are the victims of poverty,
>> >merging the two lists will only confuse the issues
>> >further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy
>> >List elsewhere?
>> >Ujwala
>> >
>> >--- Janet Isserlis wrote:
>> >
>> >> this is the response I'd sent to the content
>> >> standards and English language
>> >> lists;
>> >> apologies for the cross posting for some
>> >>
>> >> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other
>> >> substantive reasons for
>> >> eliminating these two lists? While their content
>> >> *may* overlap, at times,
>> >> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful
>> >> information particular
>> >> to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to
>> >> various other lists.
>> >>
>> >> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being
>> >> eliminated.
>> >>
>> >> Janet Isserlis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Bertha Mo
>> >> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>> >>
>> >> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List
>> >>
>> >> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and
>> >> Literacy list
>> >>
>> >> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different
>> >> folks subscribe to a list
>> >> that is women focused. I'm pretty shy about
>> >> responding to most lists. And
>> >> I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've
>> >> received from you and
>> >> others on the list.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Bertie
>> >>
>> >> Daphne Greenberg wrote:
>> >> > I am wondering how people on this list feel about
>> >> the merging of the
>> >> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,
>> >> and Literacy list? Any
>> >> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?
>> >> Excitement?
>> >> > Daphne
>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh" 10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>
>> >> > Dear Discussion List subscribers,
>> >> >
>> >> > As the National Institute for Literacy enters a
>> >> new fiscal year,
>> >> > we
>> >> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver
>> >> professional
>> >> > development
>> >> > to our discussion list members. A major change
>> >> that will directly affect
>> >> > you
>> >> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy
>> >> List with the Women and
>> >> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.
>> >> >
>> >> > We will continue to provide access to discussion
>> >> archives on our
>> >> > website.
>> >> >
>> >> > We have chosen to combine the two lists because
>> >> we recognize
>> >> > that
>> >> > many of the issues that impact one group also
>> >> affect the other group,
>> >> > and
>> >> > believe that many of the topics discussed on one
>> >> list can
>> >> > benefit
>> >> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to
>> >> combine the lists to
>> >> > enhance
>> >> > list members access to the latest ideas and
>> >> information
>> >> > available.
>> >> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is
>> >> most both practical
>> >> > and
>> >> > appropriate to have them intersect on one
>> >> combined list.
>> >> >
>> >> > We know that many members of our two lists,
>> >> especially members
>> >> > of
>> >> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens
>> >> where issues can be
>> >> > raised
>> >> > and discussed. We want you to know that we will
>> >> continue to
>> >> > respect
>> >> > your input and will maintain the same high level
>> >> of sensitivity and
>> >> > respect
>> >> > we have always shown our list members. In
>> >> combining the two
>> >> > lists,
>> >> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for
>> >> the new combined list.
>> >> > Her
>> >> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her
>> >> to moderate the women's
>> >> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and
>> >> insight that is necessary
>> >> > for
>> >> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the
>> >> responsibility of the new
>> >> > list, she will bring the same balance to the
>> >> Poverty, Race, Women, and
>> >> > Literacy list.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Institute will be inviting current
>> >> subscribers for both the
>> >> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and
>> >> Literacy List to the new
>> >> > combined
>> >> > Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List. Once you
>> >> receive the
>> >> > invitation, you will need to confirm your
>> >> subscription to the Poverty,
>> >> > Race, Women and Literacy List.
>> >> >
>> >> > We encourage you to be an active participant in
>> >> the new list by
>> >> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the
>> >> Poverty, Race, Women
>> >> > and
>> >> > Literacy List a dynamic resource for information
>> >> and
>> >> > professional
>> >> > development.
>> >> >
>> >> > My Linh Nguyen
>> >> > Associate Director of Communications
>> >> > National Institute for Literacy
>> >> > (202) 233-2041
>> >> > fax (202) 233-2050
>> >> > mnguyen at nifl.gov
>> >> >
>> >> >
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