Hi Laurie, Amber and others,

This is an interest of mine as well.  There is a discussion of a
concurrent program at the College of Lake County in Illinois in a report
that I wrote with Forrest Chisman.  It combines vocational training in a
number of areas with VESL courses.  The program is provided at the
community college, however, not at the workplace.  The report, Passing the
Torch, can be downloaded from the website at
www.caalusa.org


I am especially interested in learning more about programs like
these--either at educational institutions or at the workplace--for
health-related careers.

Jodi Crandall



> Hi Laurie -

>

> This area of VESL is an interest of mine as well.  In answer to your

> original question, I am relatively sure that there is *not* a centralized

> database of these types of programs (based on my own searches).

>

> I teach and do curriculum development in a program that involves a

> community college (like IBEST does) and the National Retail Federation.

> We do a course that blends customer service training with ESL training -

> the goal of which is employment in retail sales.

>

> The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades has also designed an

> interesting program that combines their hard skill apprenticeship

> curriculum with basic English skills.  However, that program has not yet

> been implemented in IUPAT local unions.

>

> I think most VESL programs are actually not like these - they're

> vocationally-oriented English classes but without a real technical skill

> component and the corresponding job placement/advancement goals.

>

> Amber Gallup

> Washington, DC

>

> Laurie Ketzenberg <lketzenberg at resolutionpictures.com> wrote:Re:

> [Workplace 769] Re: Concurrent Vocational and Language Training     Yes,

> VESL brings up a gazillion hits.  And there are a gazillion definitions of

> VESL.

>

>  My interest is in hard skill training for NNS (health care, culinary

> arts, building trades), where the goal is technical skill acquisition and

> upward ladder job placement and retention.  This would likely require

> interagency and interdisciplinary partnerships between ESL and Vocational

> agencies and instructors.

>

>  IBEST in WA is one model I’m learning about ...

>

>

>  On 6/19/07 6:06 PM, "Ginnie Gorin" <ggorin at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>  I would be very much interested in this as well.  Googling "VESL" brings

> up some.

>  GG

>

>  On 6/19/07, Laurie Ketzenberg < laurie at medivetproducts.com

> <mailto:laurie at medivetproducts.com> > wrote:

>  Dear Colleagues,

>

>  Is there a centralized database of programs that offer concurrent

> vocational

>  and language skills training for non-native speakers of English?

>

>  Thanks!

>  Laurie

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