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[Workplace 820] A clearinghouse for workplace ESL/ESOLDavid J. Rosen djrosen at comcast.netTue Jun 26 07:40:24 EDT 2007
Laurie, Jodi and others, The (free) Adult Literacy Education Wiki -- workforce development area -- is a good solution for a community of workplace ESL/ESOL practitioners to find -- and easily add to -- documents that are of value to the community. http://tinyurl.com/yvct4t http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/AleWorkforceDevelopment The area could list "transitions", in addition to the existing sub- topics: questions, resources, research and promising practices. It could have a separate sub-area just on workplace ESL/ESOL. Is there someone who would like to take the lead on this? If so, please contact me. David J. Rosen ALE Wiki Organizer djrosen at comcast.net On Jun 25, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Laurie Ketzenberg wrote: > I wonder how this can happen so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel > each and every time? So much work has gone into program planning, > design, implementation and evaluation! > > And, in addition to creating and maintaining a clearinghouse, how > can we ensure that promising (concurrent, and intensive) training > programs (that entail a variety of stakeholder partnerships) cut > through the red tape to be “on the shelf” with appropriate funding > agencies? > > > On 6/25/07 2:59 PM, "Jodi Crandall" <crandall at umbc.edu> wrote: > >> Suma, >> >> It was a major recommendation in our report, Passing the Torch. >> There just isn't one central place where information about >> transitions, promising practices, and the like can be collected. >> These lists fill some of that need, but only for the time in which >> people are discussing that issue. >> >> Jodi >> On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:45 AM, <suma.kurien at verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Heide Jon, Paul, Jose Ramon and others, >>> At the Conference in the Fall, the need for a clearinghouse and >>> for sharing what we have learned was a major theme. I continue to >>> wonder how we can make that happen. >>> Suma >>> >>> >>>> From: Jon Engel <jengel at communityaction.com> >>>> Date: 2007/06/22 Fri AM 10:16:23 CDT >>>> To: 'The Workplace Literacy Discussion List' <workplace at nifl.gov> >>>> Cc: rhorc at sfsu.edu >>>> Subject: [Workplace 809] Re: Concurrent Vocational and Language >>>> Training >>>> >>> >>> >>>> [Workplace 775] Re: Concurrent Vocational and Language Training >>>> Hi Heide, Barbara, Jose Ramon and everyone, >>>>  >>>> I’m sure there are a myriad ofissues in regard to career paths >>>> for ELL learners in the health professions,but given the growing >>>> labor demand across the health professions, it seems tome that >>>> we have to decide that the health cluster makes sense. Iâ >>>> €™msure you all agree. If memory serves well, Ricardo Estrada >>>> from Chicago demonstrated a fairly sophisticated model >>>> foraddressing this issue, at least with Spanish speakers, at the >>>> Bridges to Opportunity conference in NYC last Fall. Perhaps >>>> heis a resource. >>>>  >>>> As a practical matter from where I standon the adult ed. >>>> spectrum, I often find myself most concerned with >>>> connectingstudents with the first steps on career ladders, and I >>>> get excited whencreative programs become available locally to >>>> help achieve that outcome, so a CNAis meaningful to me. I know >>>> the field has to think about much more. The way my agency has >>>> been successful moving folks up career ladders has hadmore to do >>>> with providing support services, financial literacy education >>>> (IDAs),and good case management. >>>>  >>>> Jon Engel >>>>  >>>> From:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace- >>>> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Wrigley, Heide >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:46PM >>>> To: The Workplace LiteracyDiscussion List >>>> Cc: rhorc at sfsu.edu >>>> Subject: [Workplace 803] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language >>>> Training >>>>  >>>> Hi, Jon and all >>>>  >>>> A number of issues keep coming up as collegesand CBOs try to >>>> decide if a health care cluster makes sense if the goal is >>>> tokeep participants moving up the career ladder. >>>>  >>>> As you know, there is a huge gap betweenCNA and RN with lots of >>>> additional work necessary (and entry requirements forNursing >>>> Programs being quite strict). >>>>  >>>> I wonder if any of your programs havefound ways to either fill >>>> that gap or offer different kinds of training thatmove students >>>> into the direction of more technical skills >>>> (radiologytechnologists or respiratory technicians) or other >>>> areas where assistants areneeded (e.g., lab or dental assistant, >>>> physical therapy assistants and aides). >>>>  >>>> I am also cc’ing my friend JoseRamon Fernandez-Pena (I’m >>>> still trying to figure out how to get theaccent marks and the >>>> tilde on his name), hoping he might be able to add >>>> someinformation about how they help foreign-born health care >>>> workers transition fromone job category to the next. Jose Ramon >>>> runs the International Health WorkersAssistance Centers that >>>> operate in partnership with the Community College of San >>>> Francisco. >>>>  >>>> But we would also love to hear from otherswho have considered >>>> career ladders in the health care field. What has been >>>> yourexperience (good or bad) >>>>  >>>> Heide Spruck Wrigley >>>>  >>>> From:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace- >>>> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Jon Engel >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:28PM >>>> To: 'The Workplace LiteracyDiscussion List' >>>> Cc: mpoag at willread.org >>>> Subject: [Workplace 799] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language >>>> Training >>>>  >>>> Good afternoon >>>>  >>>> Good discussion >>>>  >>>> David Borden, ESL Coordinator, at Austin Community College is >>>> also offering an integrated ESL/CNAclass this year. One thing >>>> I remember him saying that was particularlyattractive about the >>>> CNA certificate for the ESL population is that it is aworkplace >>>> credential one can earn without a GED or high school diploma >>>> (atleast in Texas you can). I will follow up with him and be >>>> in touch. >>>>  >>>> Jon Engel >>>>  >>>>  >>>> From:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace- >>>> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Wrigley, Heide >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:10PM >>>> To: The Workplace LiteracyDiscussion List >>>> Subject: [Workplace 798] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language >>>> Training >>>>  >>>> Thanks, Vicky >>>>  >>>> Jodi and I will follow-up >>>>  >>>> Heide >>>>  >>>> From:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace- >>>> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Victoria Lichty >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 200711:13 AM >>>> To: Jodi Crandall; The WorkplaceLiteracy Discussion List >>>> Subject: RE: [Workplace 775] Re:Concurrent Vocational and >>>> Language Training >>>>  >>>> Reading Area Community College has a VESL class that is linked >>>> to their CNA trainingprogram. The VESL class runs for 7 weeks >>>> and the corresponding CNAtraining is the same amount of time. >>>> They are using a text from theInstiture for Caregiver Education, >>>> a group from Chambersburg, PA. >>>>  >>>> Vicky Lichty >>>>  >>>> From:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall >>>> Sent: Wed 6/20/2007 4:48 PM >>>> To: The Workplace LiteracyDiscussion List >>>> Subject: [Workplace 775] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language >>>> Training >>>> HiLaurie, Amber and others, >>>> >>>> This is an interest of mine as well. There is a discussion of a >>>> concurrent program at the College of Lake County in Illinois in >>>> a report >>>> that I wrote with Forrest Chisman. It combines vocational >>>> training in a >>>> number of areas with VESL courses. The program is provided at the >>>> community college, however, not at the workplace. The report, >>>> Passing the >>>> Torch, can be downloaded from the website at >>>> www.caalusa.org >>>> >>>> >>>> I am especially interested in learning more about programs like >>>> these--either at educational institutions or at the workplace--for >>>> health-related careers. >>>> >>>> Jodi Crandall >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Laurie - >>>>> >>>>> This area of VESL is an interest of mine as well. In answer >>>>> to your >>>>> original question, I am relatively sure that there is *not* a >>>>> centralized >>>>> database of these types of programs (based on my own searches). >>>>> >>>>> I teach and do curriculum development in a program that involves a >>>>> community college (like IBEST does) and the National Retail >>>>> Federation. >>>>> We do a course that blends customer service training with ESL >>>>> training - >>>>> the goal of which is employment in retail sales. >>>>> >>>>> The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades has also >>>>> designed an >>>>> interesting program that combines their hard skill apprenticeship >>>>> curriculum with basic English skills. However, that program >>>>> has notyet >>>>> been implemented in IUPAT local unions. >>>>> >>>>> I think most VESL programs are actually not like these - they're >>>>> vocationally-oriented English classes but without a real >>>>> technical skill >>>>> component and the corresponding job placement/advancement goals. >>>>> >>>>> Amber Gallup >>>>> Washington, DC >>>>> >>>>> Laurie Ketzenberg <lketzenberg at resolutionpictures.com> wrote:Re: >>>>> [Workplace 769] Re: Concurrent Vocational and LanguageTraining >>>>>    Yes, >>>>> VESL brings up a gazillion hits. And there are a >>>>> gazilliondefinitions of >>>>> VESL. >>>>> >>>>>  My interest is in hard skill training for NNS (health care, >>>>> culinary >>>>> arts, building trades), where the goal is technical skill >>>>> acquisition and >>>>> upward ladder job placement and retention. This would likely >>>>> require >>>>> interagency and interdisciplinary partnerships between ESL and >>>>> Vocational >>>>> agencies and instructors. >>>>> >>>>>  IBEST in WA is one model I’m learning about ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>  On 6/19/07 6:06 PM, "Ginnie Gorin"<ggorin at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>  I would be very much interested in this as well. >>>>> Googling"VESL" brings >>>>> up some. >>>>>  GG >>>>> >>>>>  On 6/19/07, Laurie Ketzenberg < laurie at medivetproducts.com >>>>> <mailto:laurie at medivetproducts.com>> wrote: >>>>>  Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>>  Is there a centralized database of programs that offer >>>>> concurrent >>>>> vocational >>>>>  and language skills training for non-native speakers of >>>>> English? >>>>> >>>>>  Thanks! >>>>>  Laurie >>>>>  --------------------- >>>>>  Graduate Student >>>>>  Temple University >>>>>  Philadelphia, PA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>  ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>>  National Institute for Literacy >>>>>  Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>>>  Workplace at nifl.gov >>>>>  To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please >>>>> go to >>>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>>>  Email delivered to ggorin at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>>  National Institute for Literacy >>>>>  Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>>>  Workplace at nifl.gov >>>>>  To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please >>>>> go to >>>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>>>  Email delivered to lauriek at temple.edu >>>>> >>>>>   ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>> National Institute for Literacy >>>>> Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>>> Workplace at nifl.gov >>>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >>>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>>> Email delivered to ambergallup at yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Amber Gallup >>>>> Director, Essential Language >>>>> (202) 234-4565 >>>>> www.essentiallanguage.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>> National Institute for Literacy >>>>> Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>>> Workplace at nifl.gov >>>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >>>>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>>> Email delivered to crandall at umbc.edu >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall >>>> Professor, Education Department >>>> Director, Ph.D. Program in Language, Literacy & Culture >>>> Coordinator, Peace Corps Master's International Program in ESOL/ >>>> Bilingual >>>> Education >>>> University of Maryland,Baltimore County (UMBC) >>>> 1000 Hilltop Circle, Baltimore, MD 21250 >>>> ph:   410-455-2313/2376 fax:  410-455-8947/1880 >>>> email: crandall at umbc.edu >>>> www.umbc.edu/llc/ >>>> www.umbc.edu/esol/ >>>> www.umbc.edu/esol/peacecorps.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> National Institute for Literacy >>>> Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>> Workplace at nifl.gov >>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go >>>> to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>> Email delivered to vlichty at racc.edu >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> National Institute for Literacy >>>> Workplace Literacy mailing list >>>> Workplace at nifl.gov >>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go >>>> to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>>> Email delivered to suma.kurien at verizon.net >>>> >>> >>> >>> Suma Kurien >>> Director, Center for Immigrant Education & Training, >>> LaGuardia Community College >>> New York City >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> National Institute for Literacy >>> Workplace Literacy mailing list >>> Workplace at nifl.gov >>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace >>> Email delivered to crandall at umbc.edu >>> >>> >> >> >> JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall >> Professor and Director >> Language, Literacy and Culture Ph.D. Program >> Director, Peace Corps Master's Intl Program in ESOL/Bilingual >> Education >> University of Maryland Baltimore County >> 1000 Hilltop Circle >> Baltimore, MD 21250 >> tel: 410-455-2313 >> fax: 410-455-8947 >> eml: crandall at umbc.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> 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