The Wiki is a great place for resources. I like that it is free and contributors can add information as they come up. I am not sure about how it is monitored. At any rate, I have bookmarked it and will surely visit it often.
Barbara Jacala
Guam Community College

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From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of David J. Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:40 PM
To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Workplace 820] A clearinghouse for workplace ESL/ESOL


Laurie, Jodi and others, 

The (free) Adult Literacy Education Wiki -- workforce development area -- is a good solution for a community of workplace ESL/ESOL practitioners to find -- and easily add to -- documents that are of value to the community.  

http://tinyurl.com/yvct4t

http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/AleWorkforceDevelopment

The area could list "transitions",  in addition to the existing sub-topics: questions, resources, research and promising practices.  It could have a separate sub-area just on workplace ESL/ESOL.  Is there someone who would like to take the lead on this?  If so, please contact me.


David J. Rosen
ALE Wiki Organizer
djrosen at comcast.net

On Jun 25, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Laurie Ketzenberg wrote:


I wonder how this can happen so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel each and every time?  So much work has gone into program planning, design, implementation and evaluation!

And, in addition to creating and maintaining a clearinghouse, how can we ensure that promising (concurrent, and intensive) training programs (that entail a variety of stakeholder partnerships) cut through the red tape to be “on the shelf” with appropriate funding agencies?


On 6/25/07 2:59 PM, "Jodi Crandall" <crandall at umbc.edu> wrote:



Suma,

It was a major recommendation in our report, Passing the Torch.  There just isn't one central place where information about transitions, promising practices, and the like can be collected.  These lists fill some of that need, but only for the time in which people are discussing that issue.

Jodi
On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:45 AM, <suma.kurien at verizon.net> wrote:



Hi Heide Jon, Paul, Jose Ramon and others,
At the Conference in the Fall, the need for a clearinghouse and for sharing what we have learned was a major theme. I continue to wonder how we can make that happen.
Suma

 


From: Jon Engel <jengel at communityaction.com>
Date: 2007/06/22 Fri AM 10:16:23 CDT
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Subject: [Workplace 809] Re: Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
 



 


[Workplace 775] Re: Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
Hi Heide, Barbara, Jose Ramon and everyone,
 
I’m sure there are a myriad ofissues in regard to career paths for ELL learners in the health professions,but given the growing labor demand across the health professions, it seems tome that we have to decide that the health cluster makes sense.  I’msure you all agree.  If memory serves well, Ricardo Estrada from Chicago demonstrated a fairly sophisticated model foraddressing this issue, at least with Spanish speakers, at the Bridges to Opportunity conference in NYC last Fall.  Perhaps heis a resource.
 
As a practical matter from where I standon the adult ed. spectrum, I often find myself most concerned with connectingstudents with the first steps on career ladders, and I get excited whencreative programs become available locally to help achieve that outcome, so a CNAis meaningful to me.  I know the field has to think about much more. The way my agency has been successful moving folks up career ladders has hadmore to do with providing support services, financial literacy education (IDAs),and good case management.
 
Jon Engel
 
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Subject: [Workplace 803] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
 
Hi, Jon and all 
 
A number of issues keep coming up as collegesand CBOs try to decide if a health care cluster makes sense if the goal is tokeep participants moving up the career ladder. 
 
As you know, there is a huge gap betweenCNA and RN with lots of additional work necessary (and entry requirements forNursing Programs being quite strict). 
 
I wonder if any of your programs havefound ways to either fill that gap or offer different kinds of training thatmove students into the direction of more technical skills (radiologytechnologists or respiratory technicians) or other areas where assistants areneeded (e.g., lab or dental assistant, physical therapy assistants and aides). 
 
I am also cc’ing my friend JoseRamon Fernandez-Pena (I’m still trying to figure out how to get theaccent marks and the tilde on his name), hoping he might be able to add someinformation about how they help foreign-born health care workers transition fromone job category to the next. Jose Ramon runs the International Health WorkersAssistance Centers that operate in partnership with the Community College of San  Francisco. 
 
But we would also love to hear from otherswho have considered career ladders in the health care field. What has been yourexperience (good or bad)
 
Heide Spruck Wrigley 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:28PM
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Subject: [Workplace 799] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
 
Good afternoon
 
Good discussion
 
David Borden, ESL Coordinator, at Austin Community  College is also offering an integrated ESL/CNAclass this year.  One thing I remember him saying that was particularlyattractive about the CNA certificate for the ESL population is that it is aworkplace credential one can earn without a GED or high school diploma (atleast in Texas you can).  I will follow up with him and be in touch.
 
Jon Engel
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:10PM
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Subject: [Workplace 798] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
 
Thanks, Vicky 
 
Jodi and I will follow-up 
 
Heide
 
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 200711:13 AM
To: Jodi Crandall; The WorkplaceLiteracy Discussion List
Subject: RE: [Workplace 775] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
 
Reading Area Community College has a VESL class that is linked to their CNA trainingprogram.  The VESL class runs for 7 weeks and the corresponding CNAtraining is the same amount of time.  They are using a text from theInstiture for Caregiver Education, a group from Chambersburg, PA.
 
Vicky Lichty
 
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Sent: Wed 6/20/2007 4:48 PM
To: The Workplace LiteracyDiscussion List
Subject: [Workplace 775] Re:Concurrent Vocational and Language Training
HiLaurie, Amber and others,

This is an interest of mine as well.  There is a discussion of a
concurrent program at the College of Lake County in Illinois in a report
that I wrote with Forrest Chisman.  It combines vocational training in a
number of areas with VESL courses.  The program is provided at the
community college, however, not at the workplace.  The report, Passing the
Torch, can be downloaded from the website at
www.caalusa.org


I am especially interested in learning more about programs like
these--either at educational institutions or at the workplace--for
health-related careers.

Jodi Crandall


 


Hi Laurie -

This area of VESL is an interest of mine as well.  In answer to your
original question, I am relatively sure that there is *not* a centralized
database of these types of programs (based on my own searches).

I teach and do curriculum development in a program that involves a
community college (like IBEST does) and the National Retail Federation.
We do a course that blends customer service training with ESL training -
the goal of which is employment in retail sales.

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades has also designed an
interesting program that combines their hard skill apprenticeship
curriculum with basic English skills.  However, that program has notyet
been implemented in IUPAT local unions.

I think most VESL programs are actually not like these - they're
vocationally-oriented English classes but without a real technical skill
component and the corresponding job placement/advancement goals.

Amber Gallup
Washington, DC

Laurie Ketzenberg <lketzenberg at resolutionpictures.com> wrote:Re:
[Workplace 769] Re: Concurrent Vocational and LanguageTraining     Yes,
VESL brings up a gazillion hits.  And there are a gazilliondefinitions of
VESL.

  My interest is in hard skill training for NNS (health care, culinary
arts, building trades), where the goal is technical skill acquisition and
upward ladder job placement and retention.  This would likely require
interagency and interdisciplinary partnerships between ESL and Vocational
agencies and instructors.

  IBEST in WA is one model I’m learning about ...


  On 6/19/07 6:06 PM, "Ginnie Gorin"<ggorin at gmail.com> wrote:

  I would be very much interested in this as well.  Googling"VESL" brings
up some.
  GG

  On 6/19/07, Laurie Ketzenberg < laurie at medivetproducts.com
<mailto:laurie at medivetproducts.com>> wrote:
  Dear Colleagues,

  Is there a centralized database of programs that offer concurrent
vocational
  and language skills training for non-native speakers of English?

  Thanks!
  Laurie
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  Temple University
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