I agree with Jodi Crandall's and Julie Strawn's definitions.   If the
event at COABE is going to focus only on incumbent worker
training/education done in the employees' place of work, you should
probably use the term "workplace" education.  If you are going to focus
on work-related education more broadly (which can include education for
incumbent [employed] workers as well as job-seekers [unemployed]), the
broader term of "workforce" is more appropriate.

Though I'm not sure I can go to COABE (limited budget!), I think this
kind of event is important.  As has been said previously on this
listserv, the conferences which formerly allowed adult educators to
discuss work-related learning issues have dwindled over the past decade
or more.  Though this discussion list has helped fill the gap a bit,
work-related basic education needs mechanisms for professional
development, sharing and development of resources, and policy
discussion. Maybe the COABE event should focus on not just the practice
of work-related basic education but on the question of how can we
re-build national- and state-level systems for work-related basic
education, especially now when (a) we are getting a new administration
at the federal level, (b) the need for a well-trained workforce
continues, and (c) the economy presents both tremendous challenges and
opportunities for adult educators. 

Paul Jurmo, Ed.D.
Dean, Economic Development and Continuing Education
Union County College
New Jersey 

-----Original Message-----
From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] On
Behalf Of Barbara Tondre
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:56 PM
To: 'Jodi Crandall'; 'The Workplace Literacy Discussion List'
Subject: [Workplace 1642] Re: Workplace Pre-Conference at COABE

It seems we have the discussion of work----- terminology every time we
plan
an event like this.  Would like to hear more folks' voices on choice of
"workplace" vs. "workforce". Barbara Tondre

-----Original Message-----
From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] On
Behalf Of JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:12 AM
To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List
Subject: [Workplace 1640] Re: Workplace Pre-Conference at COABE

I agree.  Workplace connotes training that has been designed for a
particular employer/workplace, whereas Workforce refers to more general
employment-related training, including programs that do not focus on any
one workplace or even job, but also those that seek to help individuals
find and maintain jobs with family-sustaining wages.

Jodi

JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall
Professor of TESOL
Director, Ph.D. Program in Language, Literacy & Culture
University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC)
1000 Hilltop Circle, Baltimore, MD 21250
ph:    410-455-2313/2376  fax:   410-455-8947/1880
email: crandall at umbc.edu
www.umbc.edu/llc/
www.umbc.edu/esol/
www.umbc.edu/esol/peacecorps.html



> My only caution about the suggested title for the pre-conference is

that

> "Workplace" has, I think, a narrower and more specific meaning than

> "Workforce" literacy.  It may be that you want to limit the

pre-conference

> to sessions about serving students at the workplace, but if not, I

think

> you'd be better off with the broader "Workforce" title.

>

> It's exciting that you're doing this!

>

> Julie

>

> Julie Strawn

> Senior Fellow

> Center for Law and Social Policy

> 9131 East 29th Avenue

> Denver, CO 80238

> 303-386-2306

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Tonya Crum [mailto:TCrum at ket.org]

> Sent: Mon 10/27/2008 8:47 AM

> To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List

> Subject: [Workplace 1637] Re: Workplace Pre-Conference at COABE

>

>

> This is a wonderful suggestion and I'm sure there are many good

session

> ideas out there.

>

> I would encourage you all to submit session proposals  to the COABE

> committee. They are due by November 14th and can be found at

> http://www.coabeconference.org <http://www.coabeconference.org/> .

> We look forward to seeing you here in Kentucky in April!

>

> Tonya Crum, Director

> Workforce Development & Training

> KET - Kentucky Educational Television

> 859-258-7009 office

> 800-432-0951 x7009 office

> 859-258-7393 fax

> TCrum at ket.org

>

> Ingrid Greenberg wrote:

>

> 	Thank you for posing this question. I suggest adding sessions

that

> present workplace ESL/ABE projects that use distance learning

modalities.

> I find that hybrid instruction that uses computer labs, internet based

> instruction, and telephone conferencing are more effective that

> traditional classroom instruction.

>

> 	Ingrid Greenberg

> 	ESL Assistant Program Chair

> 	North City (Linda Vista Presbyterian Church & Miramar College)

> 	Continuing Education

> 	San Diego Community College District

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> 	From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Brian, Dr Donna J

G

> 	Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 5:26 PM

> 	To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List

> 	Subject: [Workplace 1632] Workplace Pre-Conference at COABE

>

>

>

> 	Workplace Literacy Discussion List members,

>

>

>

> 	Plans are progressing for the Workplace/Workforce Pre-Conference

at
COABE

> '09.  As the discussion list members who have been a part of this list

> over the last year will remember, there was a lot of concern about the

> lack of workplace/workforce sessions at the last COABE conference, and

> there was quite a bit of list discussion at that time about the

> desirability of having such a conference.  Several list members

> volunteered to work on the project to see that such a conference would

> come about, and it seemed the best way to do this was to offer a

> pre-conference session at COABE '09. The committee planning this

> pre-conference are all discussion list members, and we have been

working

> through conference calls to plan the content of the pre-conference.

The

> Center for Literacy Studies has agreed to work with us to sponsor this

> pre-conference.

>

>

>

> 	Most of the people who might attend this pre-conference are

probably
on

> this discussion list.  The description we turned in to COABE of our

> pre-conference session (see below in red) gives a hint what we are

> currently working on, and we need to be reassured that we are

including

> what you are most interested in. Would you please tell us what you

would

> like to have included, and what your goals for the pre-conference are.

> What content would make you most likely to want to attend?  Please

> respond to this email and post your thoughts to the list.

>

>

>

> 	Workplace Education: The Workhorse of the Literacy Race  (note

from

> Donna: the theme of COABE '09 is "Winners Circle of Learning

Champions")

>

> 	Sponsored by: The Center for Literacy Studies at The University

of

> Tennessee

>

> 	Join this provocative full-day session and network with leading

national

> and international workplace and workforce educators and employers as

we

> contemplate how enhancing the literacy skills of workers and potential

> workers benefits both workers and employers. Leave with a better

> understanding of how educators and employers can work together, how to

> assess return on investment, the historical perspective, legislative

> update, connecting policy to practice, best practices in the field,

and

> the contacts and resources you need to continue networking

> post-conference.

>

> 	Thanks to all of you for your encouragement! COABE has responded

by

> planning to have a workplace strand at COABE '09, and that will work

to

> increase our presence there. I truly feel like this is our conference,

> and that you will continue to support it with by sharing your ideas,

> planning to attend, and making presentations about your work at COABE!

> Let us hear from you!

>

>

>

> 	Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 	Donna Brian

>

> 	Moderator, LINCS Workplace Literacy Discussion List

>

> 	Off-list contact djgbrian at utk.edu

>

>

>

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